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Sub Club by RevenueCat · 2026-02-28

Stop Celebrating Conversion Wins Before Checking Renewals – Sara Grana, Yousician

Short episode (RevenueCat State of Subscription Apps series). Sara Grana, revenue strategy lead at Yousician after ~7 years at Babbel, explains how she maps revenue into four buckets (new, upgrade, renewal, win-back) and annotates it with past decisions, why paywall and price 'wins' must be rechecked for refunds, chargebacks and renewals, why new plans (lifetime) must be judged on LTV, and why blended renewal rates mislead when the mix of plan, discount and web vs app purchases shifts.

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Babbel · B2C · language learning app

Surfaces which past decisions moved revenue, e.g. a lifetime plan launch; no numbers
“You can either get money from people that never had the subscription and start a new subscription, people that upgraded from a subscription to another, people that renew a subscription or people that used to have subscription then churned and then came back. So these four buckets, you have these four buckets.”
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Yousician · B2C · music learning app

Catches price 'wins' that flip once renewals come in; no numbers
“Yeah, my Google Calendar up there has this experiment recheck with my live data analyst.”
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Yousician · B2C · music learning app

Refunds show up fast and can erase a paywall win; no numbers
“then I'm looking at revenue per user of course, but then I'm also having a look always on pre-funds or chargeback. So I always wait a couple of weeks what is happening there because that's like an immediate effect that you can see.”
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Practitioner pattern · Sara Grana (Yousician, Babbel)

Looked great, but users refunded first and then took the offer; net negative
“Okay, you look a bit more deep and you realize, oh, a lot of people are cancel, putting their auto-renewal off right at the beginning, and what they are doing is they're asking for a refund and then they're getting the offer. So you are actually net negative.”
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Practitioner pattern · Sara Grana (Yousician, Babbel)

Tests otherwise wrongly crown lifetime, e.g. 250 vs 100 instead of 250 vs 300 euros
“And then every time time you do a test like lifetime versus something else, always the something else is going to lose because people are not looking at what is the LTV of that something else.”
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Practitioner pattern · Sara Grana (Yousician, Babbel)

Web buyers renew much better, so blended renewals rise from mix shift alone
“So what is most important to me is which plan did they buy, discounted or not, and where? Web versus app.”
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“If the one month was to renew at this 10% less or 5% more, whatever you want based on the result of your test, what would happen.”
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Numbers mentioned

SubjectMetricValueQuote
aggregateSubscription apps Sara Grana has worked with that sell via web checkoutretention
Renewal rate of web-purchased vs natively in-app purchased subscriptions
web renewal rates significantly higher than in-app renewal rates
approximate
“What I've seen in different companies is the web renewal rates are significantly higher than the app rate.”
benchmarkTypical price-doubling test outcome in subscription appsarpu
Occasional outcome of doubling the price; more often conversion halves and revenue is flat
+25%
illustrative
“Sometimes you'll get that win where you double the price and you do get a 25% lift in average revenue per user or something like that.”
benchmarkLifetime plan vs subscription plan value comparisonltv
Illustrative: a subscription plan's lifetime value (300 EUR) vs its first payment (100 EUR) when compared against a 250 EUR lifetime plan
EUR 300per customer
illustrative
“they are not bringing you the 100 euros, they are bringing you 300 euros, so don't compare it with 250 compare it to 300”