Sub Club by RevenueCat · 2024-12-23
Using Subscription App Benchmarks to Make Better Growth Decisions — Phil Carter, Elemental Growth
Growth advisor Phil Carter, with David Barnard and Jacob Eiting, on his Subscription Value Loop Calculator: RevenueCat data from 30K+ apps plus a ~600-response survey, used to diagnose clients' bottlenecks in week one. Covers why benchmarks mislead, 3x LTV/CAC and sub-3-month payback targets, blended vs paid CPI, client cases (edtech, fitness, annual vs monthly retention, paid over-reliance), why no app is P95 everywhere (Tinder, Duolingo), and fast-ROAS small businesses vs billion-dollar strategies.
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Numbers mentioned
| Who | Metric | Value | Context | When |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| aggregateRevenueCat dataset behind the calculator (same as the 2024 State of Subscription Apps report) | count | 30K apps approximate | Subscription apps in the dataset ('more than 30,000') | 4:50 |
| aggregateRevenueCat dataset behind the calculator | paying users | 290M subscribers estimate | 5:10 | |
| aggregateRevenueCat dataset behind the calculator | revenue | USD 7,000M approximate | Subscription revenue represented by the apps in the dataset ('almost 7 billion') | 5:10 |
| aggregateOne-time survey used for the calculator's value delivery (acquisition cost) and sign-up rate metrics | count | 600 responses approximate | Almost 600 responses across geographies and categories | 5:51 |
| benchmarkTarget LTV/CAC ratio for consumer apps | ltv cac | 3 x approximate | 'Sort of the gold standard for consumer apps' | 28:23 |
| benchmarkTarget CAC payback period for consumer subscription apps | payback period | 1–3 months approximate | Ideally under three months, or even within the first month | 28:23 |
| App with 30% annual retention and D45 ROAS | retention | 30% estimate | Annual subscriber retention, below median | 35:03 |
| App with 30% annual retention and D45 ROAS | payback period | 45 days approximate | Paid ads return their spend by day 45 (D45 ROAS) | 35:21 |
| Opal | payback period | 8 days approximate | D8 ROAS: paid acquisition pays back by day 8 | 36:23 |
| Weather Up | revenue | USD 100K/year approximate | 2024 revenue with zero paid acquisition spend | 45:25 |
| Weather Up | ad spend | USD 0/year | 45:25 | |
| Duolingo | valuation | USD 10,000M approximate | 52:36 | |
| Duolingo | time to milestone | 5–6 years approximate | From launch (2011/2012) to introducing the Duolingo Plus subscription (2017), with no monetization focus in between | 52:05 |