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Sub Club by RevenueCat · 2025-03-09

How to Use Segmentation to Maximize LTV — Greg Stewart, Ladder

Ladder CEO Greg Stewart manages on payback period and workout completions, not LTV; targets personas with tailored creative and a quiz; runs a 7-day no-card trial built around first workouts; boosts retention with a 'cheers' feature; shifted to majority annual via price tests and pitching annual only to activated trialists; gives inactive users monthly intro offers ($5 first month, ~half stay at $29.99); and uses six-week program cycles as urgency moments.

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Ladder · B2C · strength training app

Founder says it brings in users more likely to stick; no numbers

Defined granular personas, each served by a coach-led 'team' with its own workout style (e.g. Pilates-influenced at-home dumbbell training for women new to strength vs advanced gym-goers with full equipment). Each persona gets its own creative on social platforms. A pre-download quiz asks workouts per week, modalities, equipment and where they train, giving a real-time view of who is entering the funnel.

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Ladder · B2C · strength training app

Users who finish one or two workouts convert at a very high rate

7-day free trial with no payment details collected at start, so the product (getting users through one or two workouts) does the selling. Chosen at launch on a hunch that it is a better consumer experience and to stand out in a crowded COVID-era fitness market.

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Sub Club by RevenueCat · 2025-03-09

Ladder · B2C · strength training app

Hitting it in week one makes month-one retention very likely

Workout completions are the input metric instead of LTV; target is three workouts per member per week, with most iteration on the first week: what users see first, getting them through the first workout on the right program fast, then the second, and pacing the introduction of chats/social features so newcomers are not overwhelmed. Roughly 90% of iteration time goes to activation vs 10% to deals.

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Ladder · B2C · strength training app

Cheers received correlated with workout completions and long-term retention

Home screen shows avatars of people currently working out with a progress ring; double-tap to send an emoji 'cheers'. After finding that cheers received correlated with workout completions and long-term retention, Ladder works on incentivizing outbound cheers so recipients, especially early in their trial, get a 'basket of cheers'.

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Sub Club by RevenueCat · 2025-03-09

Ladder · B2C · strength training app

Annual members now outnumber monthly; payback periods very tight

First round: price testing and iteration to find the annual 'clearing price' for people willing to commit upfront. Then paywall experiments anchoring to annual and adding incentives/extra features to the annual membership. Near trial end, users who completed a workout are pitched annual as the cheaper monthly equivalent with added features and a year of accountability.

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Ladder · B2C · strength training app

Helped make annual the majority plan; no split numbers

Users who completed zero workouts in trial are not shown annual (they lack context for a premium price) and are pointed to monthly. Users who passed the first/second workout see annual right before and right after trial expiry. If they don't convert, they move to monthly intro offers: a first-month discount that steps up to full price in month two. The happy path (converting within two weeks of trial end) is not segmented.

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Ladder · B2C · strength training app

About half stay into month two at full price; consistent across cohorts

Leads who didn't convert after trial (often zero workouts) get a $5 first-month offer that renews at $29.99/month. It is a small share of conversions but gives a user spike in month one and ARR growth in month two from those who stay.

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Sub Club by RevenueCat · 2025-03-09

Ladder · B2C · strength training app

Founder says deals work best at these moments; no numbers

Workouts are programmed in six-week 'strength series'. Before each new series, marketing, coaches and in-app messaging tell the story of the next series and its themes; the lead database gets an urgency message ('tomorrow is day one') with discounts/coupons to lower the barrier to entry. Many leads convert months after trial as fitness needs change seasonally.

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Sub Club by RevenueCat · 2025-03-09

Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
Laddersharemore annual than monthly members
approximate
Annual members as share of subscriber base; previously monthly was the majority11:42
Ladderretention50%
approximate
Month-two retention of users who took the $5 first-month intro offer (non-activated trialists); survivors move to $29.99/month16:11
LadderpriceUSD 5/monthIntro offer for the first month, then full price16:11
LadderpriceUSD 29.99/monthFull monthly price after the intro month16:11
Laddershare90%
estimate
Share of iteration time spent on product activation vs deals/offers (10%)13:40
Ladderactivity volume3 workoutsper member /week
goal
North-star target: workouts per member per week, especially in week one8:19