Ladder · B2C · strength training app
Test annual prices, lead the paywall with annual, and add annual-only features
Annual members now outnumber monthly; payback periods very tight
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What they did
First round: price testing and iteration to find the annual 'clearing price' for people willing to commit upfront. Then paywall experiments anchoring to annual and adding incentives/extra features to the annual membership. Near trial end, users who completed a workout are pitched annual as the cheaper monthly equivalent with added features and a year of accountability.
What happened
More annual than monthly members in the subscriber base, reversed from before.
- Stage
- growth
- Effort
- Multiple rounds of price and paywall testing
This shipped together with other changes, so the result can't be credited to this alone.
In their words
Sub Club by RevenueCat · How to Use Segmentation to Maximize LTV — Greg Stewart, Ladder“The first rev of that was on price, and that was a bunch of testing and iteration, and then we got to a place where we thought we had the right clearing price for folks that were willing to commit upfront.”
“And then we did some experimentation around the paywall, anchoring to annual, putting incentives and added features into the annual membership to entice folks to commit on a longer time frame.”
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