Sub Club by RevenueCat · 2026-03-07
The Art of Driving Retention Through Product – Ben Gammon, Ladder
Short Sub Club episode with Ben Gammon, VP of Product at Ladder (strength training app). Covers product-driven retention: working back from five-star reviews to a 3-workouts-a-week north star, the workout journal as a progress flywheel, coach voiceovers that teach features in the moment, the home-screen streak widget (~1/3 of users), large annual surveys over user interviews, and the nutrition launch where hybrid users convert and retain better.
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Numbers mentioned
| Who | Metric | Value | Context | When |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ladder | count | 3 workoutsper user /week goal | North-star consistency target per user (ratcheted down from 4, 'backed by science') | |
| Ladder | share | 70–75% approximate | Share of users who use the journal (log reps/weights) for each workout; started lower | |
| Ladder | share | 33% approximate | Share of users who have the home-screen widget installed | |
| Ladder | count | 7,500 responses/year approximate | Responses to the annual end-of-year user survey (takes 45+ minutes to complete) | |
| Ladder | count | 80–90 questions approximate | Questions in the end-of-2024 annual survey (multiple choice and open-ended) | |
| Ladder | conversion rate | much higher for hybrid (workout + nutrition) new users estimate | New-user conversion of hybrid users vs workout-only users, ~100 days after nutrition launch | |
| Ladder | retention | much more retentive for hybrid users estimate | Retention of hybrid (workout + nutrition) users vs others; early read at ~100 days | |
| personDavid Barnard (host) as a Ladder user | growth rate | +62% | Dumbbell bench press increase since starting, shown in Ladder's post-workout progress recap |