Monarch Money · B2C · personal finance and budgeting app
Ask 'why' 3-5 times about requests to find the real emotional need
Found users want a sense of control; marketing changes still to come
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What they did
When users ask for something (e.g. 'see everything in one place'), keep asking why, usually three times, to reach the root emotional or tactical need. For Monarch it was a need for control, order from chaos. Plans to align marketing messaging with it as the new marketing team is staffed.
What happened
Insight found; messaging not yet changed because the team was small.
- Stage
- growth
In their words
Sub Club by RevenueCat · Learning and Profiting from Black Swan Events — Val Agostino, Monarch Money“And if you kind of ask why five times, and often it just takes three, you'll come to some sort of often core emotional problem that they're trying to solve”
“And if you kind of keep like drilling down, what you often find is there's this sense of I want to be in control.”
“And honestly, we haven't done this well because our team's been so small, but now that we're staffing up, we're going to lean more into this.”
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