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Pete Codes · 2024-10-01

Over $10k a month from a timer app

Pete interviews Lukas Hermann, solo bootstrapped founder of StageTimer (remote-controlled countdown timer for live events), at $10-20k/month. Covers his 3-peak goal ($1M ARR SaaS, $100M company, moonshot), going full-time after a layoff, declining VC, freemium plan with logo on the displayed timer as the growth engine (word of mouth 40%+), SEO as the strongest channel, many failed channels (YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, podcast sponsorship, print, trade shows), a second product Rundown Studio, and doing business in Germany.

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StageTimer · B2B · countdown timer for stage speakers

Word of mouth is 40%+ of signups; logo effect not measured

Offer a very limited free plan so crews can pull StageTimer up instantly when they 'need a timer quickly'. The free version shows the StageTimer logo on the countdown display the speaker and crew look at. Inspired by Dropbox's share-for-space model. Event production crews and independent technicians who see it on stage adopt it for their next events and bring it to other gigs.

Workedproduct-viralitypricing
Pete Codes · 2024-10-01

StageTimer · B2B · countdown timer for stage speakers

Much stronger than any other channel; no numbers

Search engine optimization is the main marketing channel; Lukas prefers product-led growth and SEO over sales. No specifics on content or keywords given.

Workedseo
Pete Codes · 2024-10-01

StageTimer · B2B · countdown timer for stage speakers

Founder says Google works right now; no numbers

Running Google ads; no details on budget or keywords.

Workedpaid-search
Pete Codes · 2024-10-01

StageTimer · B2B · countdown timer for stage speakers

Didn't work; founder blames the video

Tried YouTube (in context of ad channels) with a video; no spend or duration given.

Failedpaid-social
Pete Codes · 2024-10-01

StageTimer · B2B · countdown timer for stage speakers

No purchases from either so far

Tried Instagram; currently trying Facebook. No spend, targeting or creative details.

Failedpaid-social
Pete Codes · 2024-10-01

StageTimer · B2B · countdown timer for stage speakers

Podcasts didn't want sponsors, or the pitch was wrong

Reached out to live-event industry podcasts offering sponsorship.

Failedpodcast-sponsorship
Pete Codes · 2024-10-01

StageTimer · B2B · countdown timer for stage speakers

Too expensive; dropped

Looked into print magazine advertising in the industry.

Failedoffline-ads
Pete Codes · 2024-10-01

StageTimer · B2B · countdown timer for stage speakers

No business done; very expensive

Went to one physical trade show as visitors (no booth) to see what happens.

Failedevents
Pete Codes · 2024-10-01

Rundown Studio · B2B · show rundown planning tool

Growing alongside the main product; founder notes more stress

With a co-founder from live video production, built Rundown Studio, a show-planning/rundown tool for the pre-show phase, complementary to StageTimer (during-event) and aimed at the same audience. Motivated by users reporting paying ~$6,000/year for incumbent rundown software; goal was same functionality, improved, cheaper. Framed as diversification against losing the first product.

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Pete Codes · 2024-10-01

StageTimer · B2B · countdown timer for stage speakers

Beyond a single countdown, added series of countdowns to program a whole show (opening, keynote, Q&A) and auto-advance/scheduled runs requested by gyms/CrossFit (sets and breaks, 20 countdowns daily); required years of handling time zones and daylight-saving bugs.

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Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
StageTimerrevenueUSD 10K–20K/month
approximate
Not purely recurring revenue, so given as a range; currency not stated11:01
StageTimerrevenueUSD 500–1,000/month
approximate
Income 'foundation' when he went full-time after the layoff; phrased generically, attribution to StageTimer inferred14:49
StageTimerrevenueUSD 1M/year
goal
First 'peak' in Lukas's pinned-tweet plan: $1M annual revenue SaaS; later peaks $100M/year then a moonshot33:11
StageTimermarket sizeUSD 2M/year
estimate
Lukas's own best-case estimate of what the niche could yield for StageTimer7:55
StageTimershare40%
estimate
acquisition share; Share of acquisition from recommendations / word of mouth ('at least 40%'); attributed partly to the logo on free-plan displays37:11
StageTimercount1 signups/one-time
approximate
Signups that explicitly cited the viral Trump-rally Reddit photo ('somebody')17:58
expensive incumbent show-planning (rundown) softwarepriceUSD 6,000per customer /year
approximate
What prospects said they pay for incumbent show-planning software; motivated building Rundown Studio34:16
benchmarkYear-over-year growth that even generous private VC investors expectgrowth rate+200–300%/year
approximate
20:45
Danny Postma's SEO courserevenueUSD 80K
estimate
Course sales in 'a few days' after launch24:47
MentorCruiserevenueUSD 1M
estimate
'Over a million dollars' in roughly 5-6 years38:34