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Pete Codes · 2022-10-21

$60k/m from a job board

High Signal community AMA with Eric Turner of Japan Dev, a curated English-language job board for developers in Japan run with his wife, at ~$60k/month average (non-recurring, spiky). Free job posts with a success-based placement fee positioned against 25-35% recruiter fees; revenue-capture mechanisms (hire-report gift card, applicant interstitial, late-fee contract clause); first customer was his employer Mercari; candidates via SEO and email list; pivot from a company-review site; ~12 months to first dollar.

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Japan Dev · B2B · Japan developer job board

Sales converted pretty well; business at ~$60K/month

Companies post jobs for free; Japan Dev charges a placement fee (percentage of salary) only when a hire is made through the site. Positioned against Japanese recruiters who charge 25-35%+ of starting salary ($10-30k per hire), which companies are already used to paying, while Japan Dev's fee is lower. Chosen because a founder with no sales background could close a zero-risk pitch easily, and per-post pricing is less common in Japan.

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Pete Codes · 2022-10-21

Japan Dev · B2B · Japan developer job board

Catches unreported hires at a 'pretty good hit rate'

Site shows a 'found a job' link/banner; candidates who applied directly through the site and report which company and position hired them get a ¥3,000 Amazon Japan gift card. Eric uses the report to invoice companies for placements they didn't report.

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When a candidate clicks apply, an interstitial modal requires name, email and URL before redirecting to the company's own hiring page. Eric keeps the applicant list per company and compares applicants-per-hire against his normal averages; if a company has had hundreds of applicants and no reported hire, he investigates the list (e.g. checks LinkedIn) for unreported hires.

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Pete Codes · 2022-10-21

Japan Dev · B2B · Japan developer job board

Founder believes cheating is rare; no numbers

Had a startup-savvy lawyer (found via online reviews) draft the placement contract in Japanese for ~$1,000; Eric self-translated an English version. Contract includes an increasing monthly percentage fee for each month a new hire goes unreported. Combined with fair pricing so companies have little incentive to cheat.

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Pete Codes · 2022-10-21

Japan Dev · B2B · Japan developer job board

Next two companies came relatively easily

While building the job board as a side project, Eric pitched his own employer Mercari via HR people he already knew. Then used 'Mercari is on the site already' to sign the second and third companies; after a handful of well-known companies, sales got much easier. Later added testimonials with hire counts.

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Japan Dev · B2B · Japan developer job board

Enough to land the first few companies

Pitch to Japanese companies: jobs posted free, plus Eric (native English speaker) writes their English company profile page and job descriptions, and shares them on his social media, so 'even if I'm lying, you've lost nothing'. Started with in-person office visits; switched to Zoom calls during COVID, which was more efficient.

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Japan Dev · B2B · Japan developer job board

Slow: ~12 months to first revenue; traffic grew steadily over years

Candidate (supply) acquisition via SEO and an email list/newsletter, plus site conversion optimization once visitors were in the funnel. No specifics on content or cadence.

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Japan Dev · B2B · Japan developer job board

Founder credits curation for making the model work; no numbers

Keeps ~100 companies listed at a time, focused on modern/international startups and foreign companies friendly to English-speaking developers; turns down most inbound companies that don't meet quality requirements. Content emphasizes company culture and work style (inspired by Key Values).

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Japan Dev · B2B · Japan developer job board

Led to the first paying clients

Original company discovery + reviews site: companies wouldn't engage with a reviews site, and visitors looked for ~10 seconds then got confused because there was no apply button. Added apply buttons and pivoted to a job board.

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Companies must report a hire within ~5 days of contract signing; invoice sent then, due on the last day of the month following the join month. If the hire has an issue within ~1 month, a partial (not full) refund; simpler than recruiters' staged refund schedules (e.g. 100% in month 1, 50% after 3 months).

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Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
Japan DevrevenueUSD 60K/month
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Average over the past few months; not recurring, spiky month to month; currency implied by title0:45
Japan Devtime to milestone12 months
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From having companies and jobs posted on the job board to first revenue24:10
Japan Devcustomers100 companies
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Hiring companies listed at any given time; most inbound applicants rejected19:44
Japan DevcostJPY 3,000per reported hireincentive value; Amazon Japan gift card to candidates who report being hired after applying via the site4:56
Japan DevcostUSD 1,000/one-time
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Lawyer fee to draft the Japanese placement-fee contract8:24
benchmarkRecruiting-firm placement fee in Japan as % of a hire's starting salarycommission rate25–35%per hire
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'if not more'1:58
benchmarkRecruiting fee Japanese companies pay per hire (percentage of salary), per host recalling a private conversationcommission rate20–30%per hire
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21:54
benchmarkAmount high-end Japanese tech companies readily pay per hire to recruiterspriceUSD 10K–30Kper hire
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1:58
benchmarkTypical per-post price charged by job boardspriceUSD 300–500per job post
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1:14