Sub Club by RevenueCat · 2025-10-15
Buying vs. Building: Scaling Beyond a Single App — Josh Peleg, BlueThrone
Josh Peleg (head of M&A/BD at app acquirer BlueThrone) on how BlueThrone moved from buying ~100 small utility apps as financial assets (many had been pumped before sale and died) to a 5-app portfolio of category leaders with organic traffic. Covers valuation multiples by revenue type, five deal red flags, why juicing lifetime sales or cutting marketing before a sale backfires, when consumer apps should raise VC, hybrid monetization (consumables, soft currency, rewarded ads, physical merch at Plarium), buying vs building a second app, and stats from BlueThrone's last 100 founder meetings.
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Numbers mentioned
| Who | Metric | Value | Context | When |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| BlueThrone | count | 100 apps approximate | Small apps bought in BlueThrone 1.0 ('almost 100') | |
| BlueThrone | count | 5 apps | Apps in the BlueThrone 2.0 portfolio | |
| BlueThrone | time to milestone | 6 months | Time from starting an in-house UGC machine to the first viral video, with multiple people across disciplines | |
| benchmarkCost of a single UGC app video | cost | USD 5per video illustrative | Guest's example: a $5 UGC video with a CTA may get 1-2M views at ~10% conversion; real cost is the team time | |
| benchmarkMoney needed to build and launch a consumer app, even when paying someone to build it | cost | USD 10K–15K/one-time approximate | ||
| benchmarkData an acquirer needs to value a young app | time to milestone | 6–9 months approximate | Months of retention/churn/conversion data needed to predict an app's performance | |
| aggregateConsumer subscription apps (RevenueCat data) | retention | 35% approximate | Median renewal of an annual plan in consumer apps | |
| Brazilian solo founder's app acquired by BlueThrone | exit price | USD 4M/one-time approximate | 'over $4 million', bootstrapped, paid straight to the founder | |
| Brazilian solo founder's app acquired by BlueThrone | time to milestone | 18 months approximate | Launch to exit | |
| Brazilian solo founder's app acquired by BlueThrone | time to milestone | 3 months | Deal closing time, attributed to having no VCs | |
| BlueThrone's first acquisition (music entertainment app) | exit price | seven figures approximate | Paid by BlueThrone to a solo founder after two years of building; closed within two months | |
| BlueThrone's first acquisition (music entertainment app) | users | MAU 200K approximate | MAU at acquisition | |
| BlueThrone's first acquisition (music entertainment app) | users | MAU 6M approximate | MAU at recording ('almost 6 million'), still near top of category | |
| BlueThrone's first acquisition (music entertainment app) | team size | +15 people | Team grown from 5 to 15 after acquisition | |
| Opal | price | USD 120/year | Yearly plan | |
| Cal AI | price | USD 29.99/year | ||
| Ladder | price | USD 130/year approximate | ||
| Plarium | revenue | USD 1,000M/year approximate | RAID: Shadow Legends at its peak | |
| Plarium | share | 2% approximate | Whales (spending thousands of dollars) as share of RAID's user base | |
| Plarium | price | USD 6–50/one-time illustrative | Physical merch ladder: mug $6, t-shirt $20, premium hoodie $50 | |
| marketApp Store revenue concentration | share | 400 x approximate | Top five apps make 400x more revenue than the bottom 25% of apps | |
| BlueThrone | activity volume | 100 founder meetings/month approximate | 'over 100 founders a month' | |
| aggregateBlueThrone's last 100 founder meetings (last two months) | share | 30% estimate | Host guess: share building an AI note-taking app | |
| aggregateBlueThrone's last 100 founder meetings (last two months) | share | 9% | Building an AI note-taking app (9 of 100) | |
| aggregateBlueThrone's last 100 founder meetings (last two months) | share | less than 10% estimate | Host guess: share of female founders | |
| aggregateBlueThrone's last 100 founder meetings (last two months) | share | 2% | Female founders (2 of 100) | |
| aggregateBlueThrone's last 100 founder meetings (last two months) | share | less than 40% estimate | Host guess: share that raised VC | |
| aggregateBlueThrone's last 100 founder meetings (last two months) | share | 20% approximate | Founders who successfully raised VC for their app ('closer to 20%') | |
| aggregateBlueThrone's last 100 founder meetings (last two months) | share | 50% estimate | Host guess: share of solo founders ('over 50%') | |
| aggregateBlueThrone's last 100 founder meetings (last two months) | share | 34% | Solo founders with no full-time team | |
| aggregateBlueThrone's last 100 founder meetings (last two months) | share | less than 30% estimate | Host guess: share of US-based founders | |
| aggregateBlueThrone's last 100 founder meetings (last two months) | share | 45% | US-based founders; guest attributes it partly to needing a US-based TikTok account | |
| BlueThrone | offer value | USD 2M–50Mper acquisition approximate | BlueThrone acquisition budget range per app | |
| BlueThrone | revenue | USD 500K/year approximate | Minimum annual revenue BlueThrone considers for an acquisition |