Cal AI · B2C · AI calorie tracking app
Try mukbang eaters and UFC fighters as creators
Neither niche worked
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What they did
Tested mukbang creators and UFC fighters as new sub-niches for the calorie app.
What happened
Mukbang and UFC fighter creators didn't work
- Effort
- tested as part of ongoing niche exploration; scale not given
“we expanded to like mukbang creators. That didn't work. We expanded to UFC fighters, that didn't work.”
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