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App Masters · 2026-03-07

How I Built Multiple $1M+ ARR Product

Solo founder Zakhar Azatian (BeHard, a challenge-based accountability app past $1M ARR) shares his process: score ideas on interest, expertise and opportunity in Notion, build v1 in a week, then loop experiments on the bottleneck. BeHard grew organic/ASO/Apple Ads first, then influencers (tens of millions of TikTok views), then paid ads. Host Steve P. Young adds client results (lifetime-free promo to $90K/year, 2x workout completion from an email subject line, Apple Ads keyword lessons) and two live audits.

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BeHard · B2C · challenge accountability app

Founder says it picked his successful products; no numbers

Dump every idea into a Notion table. Score interest, expertise and opportunity; a formula averages them and you pick the highest. Opportunity gets a point each for: demand, revenue proof, a balanced competition level (too little = no market; only one successful product is a red flag), retention (solves a real problem or truly entertaining) and timing (new platform features, new models, social trends). Expertise scores 1-4 on: can I build it, can I market it, do I understand the product, can I monetize it. Research with Foreplay, AdSpy (competitor Meta ads), Sensor Tower, Appfigures, Google Trends and TikTok view counts for keywords; validation usually takes no more than about a week.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

WidgetBox · B2C · home screen widgets app

Became one of the top ~3 widget apps

When Apple released home-screen widgets with iOS 14 there was a boom in widget apps; the team executed fast and threw all its marketing expertise at the opportunity. Same pattern: when the ChatGPT API launched there was no official ChatGPT iOS app, so apps ranking for 'ChatGPT' searches made good revenue. BeHard similarly monitors social media for new challenge trends.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

BeHard · B2C · challenge accountability app

Almost all of the founder's successful products started this way

Pick the top-scored idea and build it in a week, removing anything that would take too long. BeHard's first version was a bare challenge list (first workout, second workout, 10 pages). Use AI coding agents (carefully with autonomous ones); an 'agent factory' could test many ideas before investing human time.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

BeHard · B2C · challenge accountability app

Reached over $1M ARR

Challenges were already popular: many people posting on TikTok and searching Google and the App Store. First campaigns aimed to capture a slice of that traffic via organic (ASO, TikTok) plus Apple Ads. Phase two was influencer marketing; phase three paid ads to reach $1M ARR. Guest warns Apple Ads is hard to scale profitably in competitive categories, and ASO alone is rarely viable unless validated before launch.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

BeHard · B2C · challenge accountability app

Tens of millions of TikTok views; can beat paid ads with the right creator

UA managers ran TikTok influencer campaigns. While daily downloads are small, attribute each video by the traffic peak: note the post day (e.g. Wednesday), then that day's downloads and sales. At high install volume this becomes nearly impossible. Once a creator performs, sign a long-term deal. Discount codes capture only ~10-20% of influenced users; measure the code rate on early campaigns and model future ones from it.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

BeHard · B2C · challenge accountability app

Founder, who built the app for himself after reading David Goggins, posted on TikTok and Instagram about going through the challenges, with little money at the start. Suggests AI-generated talking-head videos of your own face for cheap testing.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

BeHard · B2C · challenge accountability app

Quick self-made set beat 3 weeks of designer work and an agency's 5 versions

Founder made the first screenshots himself in a couple of days. Designers then spent 2-3 weeks on 'perfect' screenshots, and a hired agency produced five variations; both performed worse than the founder's set in store tests.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

BeHard · B2C · challenge accountability app

Founder's standard process; no numbers

Treat launch as the first experiment. If it isn't profitable, decide if it's a distribution or product problem (get traffic to the current version before improving the product). Find the bottleneck (CAC too high, low conversion, low LTV, low ad CTR), design an experiment for it, run it, analyze. If profitable, scale until it stops being profitable, then repeat. Start pricing by copying competitors. To force-test a creative Meta/TikTok won't serve, put it alone in its own campaign with a fairly high budget.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

An AI note-taking app · B2C · App Masters client

Revenue went from ~$200/month to $90,000 in the first year

App Masters' 'lifetime free' growth hack applied to an AI notetaker app that already had demand, revenue proof, moderate competition and good timing. Host stresses it only took off because those opportunity signals were present; it doesn't work for every app.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

A subscription app · B2C · host's own app

Got downloads right away; monetizing took more work

Host checks App Store search demand before building, then builds a simple app to match; downloads came immediately, but monetization lagged and had to be tested.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

A subscription app · B2C · host's own app

Weekly worked better than yearly; no numbers

After struggling to monetize the app, tested plan lengths and found weekly plans worked better than yearly.

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An utility apps · B2C · host's own apps

$1,000 in the first month from ASO alone

End-2023 self-challenge: shipped the blandest screenshots (literal screens of the app) and basic features, and only tweaked ASO to fix distribution rather than testing screenshots with no downloads.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

An utility apps · B2C · host's own apps

About 75K total views but little growth

Posted many organic social videos for a utility app. Both speakers conclude organic social needs an inherently interesting, shareable product (Cluely, Rizz) and videos about the product itself, not just trends.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

An utility apps · B2C · host's own apps

Didn't work; too little search volume

Tried long-tail exact-match keywords on his own app; they lacked volume. Instead, raise exact-match bids a lot (aim for ~90% impression share, as John of Momingo did) to see how the core keywords really perform.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

An app with $60K/month Apple Ads · App Masters client

Worked a lot better; no numbers

Client spending $60K/month on Apple Ads had only two exact-match keywords (and variations) converting well; App Masters moved to what it calls a 'basic-plus' campaign.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

A workout app · B2C · App Masters client

Workout completion rate doubled

Changed the email subject line from 'The benefits of HIIT workouts' to 'Our most popular workouts'. Host suggests the same popularity framing ('Popular tours') for other apps.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

Parallel Live · app validated through content

Went on to over $1M ARR

Founder Ethan started creating content to validate the idea before building the app.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

Rather than month-one ROAS (spent $1,000 this month, made how much this month), evaluate how much a cohort makes within three months against CAC, which allows paying a higher CAC.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

An utility apps · B2C · host's own apps

Under $0.10 per install in some markets; conversion still to be checked

For faster Android results than ASO: run Google UAC campaigns targeting a specific market, then use target-ROAS campaigns since Google knows who converts. Pair with keyword-left titles and custom store listings per keyword for Google Play ASO.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

An indie niche app · past App Masters guest

Host recommends it for indies; no numbers

A past guest found podcasters in his niche (they understand affiliate deals and want to monetize), built his own tracking down to the sale, and paid them out per sale. App Store Connect offer codes can also be used to track each influencer and give their audience a discount.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

Practitioner pattern · Steve P. Young (Runs App Masters and Indie App Santa / Lifetime Free promos referenced as growth hacks; sponsors include Encore, AppsFlyer, AppScreens, B7Dev)

Host finds forced sign-up first means people usually won't pay

Order: paywall -> sign-up -> payment screen. Forcing account creation before the paywall stops most people from paying.

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App Masters · 2026-03-07

Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
BeHardarrUSD 1M
approximate
5:13
BeHardviewstens of millions of views on TikTok
approximate
Influencer campaign views on TikTok41:44
personZakhar Azatian's B2C apps over 7-8 yearsrevenuemillions in revenue
approximate
4:37
personZakhar Azatian: products built over his careercount20
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Products built ('more than 10, around 20, maybe even more')4:37
WidgetBoxrank3
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Among top widget apps after the iOS 14 widgets launch ('probably like top three')13:46
App Masters client AI notetaker apprevenuea couple of hundred dollars a month
approximate
Before the lifetime-free growth hack18:22
App Masters client AI notetaker apprevenueUSD 90K/year
approximate
Revenue within the first year after the lifetime-free growth hack18:22
App Masters in-house appsrevenueUSD 1,000/month
approximate
First month, ASO only, with plain screenshots of the app's screens (end-2023 challenge)30:03
App Masters in-house appsviews70K–75K
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Collective views across many organic social videos for a utility app; little growth50:04
App Masters Apple Ads client spending $60K a monthad spendUSD 60K/month
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Apple Ads spend; only two exact-match keywords converted well53:33
App Masters client with HIIT workout emailsconversion rate+2 x
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Workout completion rate after changing the email subject line to 'Our most popular workouts'1:21:03
App Masters in-house appscpiUSD 0.1
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Google App (UAC) campaigns in certain markets: less than 10 cents per install1:08:06
Parallel LivearrUSD 1M
approximate
24:13
Rizzdownloads100M
estimate
52:13
benchmarkRough minimum budget to launch paid ads on Meta or TikTok with no prior dataad spendUSD 10K
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Guest's experience-based rule of thumb; use real benchmarks once available54:50
benchmarkShare of influencer-driven users who enter a creator discount codeshare10–20%
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Codes capture only a fraction; model total influencer impact from the code rate56:33
benchmarkLaunches without prior validation that get no traffic or revenueshare90%
illustrative
28:38