The Superwall Podcast · 2026-07-30
Patrick Stuart-Constant & Pablo Sánchez - $16M AI CEOs: How to Make $1.3M/Month With AI Apps
Patrick Stuart-Constant and Pablo Sánchez of Sociaaal, a profitable AI-native app studio (22 apps, 40M+ downloads, $16M annualized on a $1M pre-seed), explain buying apps after their viral peak (Celebs, Hotspots) and scaling them with ~100 A/B tests a month and ~4,000 fully AI-made video ads a month. Highlights: removing the onboarding paywall on Celebs raised revenue, retesting old A/B tests, tagging test hypotheses for AI agents, and a walkthrough of WiseSam, their consumer OpenClaw agent with a long personalized web onboarding.
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Numbers mentioned
| Who | Metric | Value | Context | When |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sociaaal | revenue | USD 16M/year approximate | annualized revenue, profitable | 3:44 |
| Sociaaal | funding raised | USD 1M approximate | pre-seed equity; no equity since | 3:44 |
| Sociaaal | revenue | USD 11M/year approximate | annualized revenue at the point the team was 11 people | 3:44 |
| Sociaaal | team size | 11 people | team size at $11M annualized; has since grown | 3:44 |
| Sociaaal | revenue | USD 1Mper employee /year approximate | revenue per employee at $11M / 11 people | 3:44 |
| Sociaaal | count | 22 apps | apps in portfolio | 4:12 |
| Sociaaal | downloads | 40M downloads approximate | across the portfolio | 8:34 |
| Sociaaal | activity volume | 4,000 video ads/month approximate | AI-made video ads produced per month; also hundreds of playable ads and thousands of statics | 4:12 |
| Sociaaal | activity volume | 100 A/B tests/month estimate | A/B tests run per month across the portfolio | 4:12 |
| Fontmaker | downloads | 7M downloads approximate | 8:34 | |
| Fontmaker | revenue | USD 200K/month approximate | 8:55 | |
| Litstick | revenue | USD 300K/month approximate | just north of $300K/month | 9:09 |
| Celebs | revenue | similar to Litstick (~$300K+/month), a tiny bit bigger approximate | 9:15 | |
| AutoPaste | revenue | a bit smaller than Litstick/Celebs, closer to Fontmaker (~$200K/month) approximate | 9:15 | |
| Sociaaal | arpu | +3 x estimate | average ARPU across the portfolio's apps over the last 18 months | 13:28 |
| Sociaaal | arpu | +2 x approximate | average ARPU across the portfolio's apps over the last 12 months | 13:28 |
| Sociaaal | ltv cac | 3 x approximate | LTV/CAC averaged across the portfolio; most apps near this | 14:27 |
| Celebs | price | USD 6.99–14.99/week approximate | weekly subscription range, host reading the store listing | 14:33 |
| Sociaaal | share | 50% illustrative | share of A/B tests that come out neutral (10 of ~20) | 15:25 |
| Sociaaal | share | 25% illustrative | share of A/B tests that are clearly negative (5 of ~20) | 15:25 |
| Sociaaal | share | 15% illustrative | share of A/B tests that look promising and get scaled up (3 of ~20) | 15:25 |
| Sociaaal | share | 10% illustrative | share of A/B tests that are clear wins (2 of ~20) | 15:25 |
| WiseSam | price | USD 1/one-time | first promo week price, then $10/week; web checkout via Stripe | 28:07 |
| WiseSam | price | USD 10/week | weekly price after the $1 promo week | 28:07 |
| Sociaaal | team size | +3 x estimate | creative team size growth over the last 6 months while ad production was automated | 42:31 |
| Sociaaal | team size | 6 people | ads team: mostly ideation, plus video editors and playable-ad makers | 43:40 |
| marketcelebrity-lookalike curiosity: share of people who want to know their celebrity lookalike | market size | 50% estimate | 11:49 |