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The Superwall Podcast · 2026-07-30

Patrick Stuart-Constant & Pablo Sánchez - $16M AI CEOs: How to Make $1.3M/Month With AI Apps

Patrick Stuart-Constant and Pablo Sánchez of Sociaaal, a profitable AI-native app studio (22 apps, 40M+ downloads, $16M annualized on a $1M pre-seed), explain buying apps after their viral peak (Celebs, Hotspots) and scaling them with ~100 A/B tests a month and ~4,000 fully AI-made video ads a month. Highlights: removing the onboarding paywall on Celebs raised revenue, retesting old A/B tests, tagging test hypotheses for AI agents, and a walkthrough of WiseSam, their consumer OpenClaw agent with a long personalized web onboarding.

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Sociaaal · B2C · AI-native app studio

Bought 6-year-old Celebs mid-decline; now bigger than ever, ~$300K+/month

Look for apps that look like short-term viral hits but tap a broad, lasting interest (e.g. celebrity lookalike curiosity). Buy them after the viral peak while revenue is falling and sellers don't know how to grow them. Judge on data: can we scale it profitably long-term and 20x revenue, making multiples of the acquisition price. Then run the studio's UA machine plus dozens of A/B tests a month per app to lift ARPU (the LTV/CAC loop).

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Sociaaal · B2C · AI-native app studio

Strong ad results count as a key data point in buy decisions; no numbers

Combine a top-down market view (structure, willingness to pay, growth) with a bottom-up test: run ads for apps that don't exist yet or that are acquisition targets. Ads are highly standardized so results compare against a large internal benchmark. Then check the target's own ARPU, retention and marketing data.

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Celebs · B2C · celebrity lookalike app

More revenue per user; later paywalls converted the users who used to drop

A/B tested removing the end-of-onboarding paywall so users reach the 'moment of maximal intrigue' (their lookalike result) as fast as possible. Works because the app already had ~10 optimized conversion placements downstream (on seeing the result, on sharing, on reopening). Advice: keep the onboarding paywall (hard or trial) unless there is a clearly better moment later in the app to ask.

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Sociaaal · B2C · AI-native app studio

Onboarding paywall removal lost several times, then won big

Don't treat a losing test as permanently settled: results depend on the surrounding flow, which keeps changing. Periodically retest old assumptions, especially high-lift ones, in the current configuration. The Celebs paywall-removal test failed several times before winning.

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Sociaaal · B2C · AI-native app studio

Portfolio ARPU roughly 3x in 18 months, 2x in 12; about 1 in 10 tests wins

Dozens of A/B tests a month per app (~100/month across the portfolio). Focus early on the top of the funnel (first screens, adding/removing onboarding screens), then test all around the app once an app has ~1M users/month. Each test starts at small scale and is expanded if promising. Of ~20 tests: 10 neutral, 5 bad, 3 promising, 2 winners.

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Every A/B test gets a stated reason (hypothesis), result and learning in a backlog, never 'it feels better'. Learnings are generalized into strategies (e.g. 'remove onboarding friction when down-funnel conversion is strong') with the 5-7 concrete changes that achieved it, so an agent or new hire can find the equivalent in other apps.

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Sociaaal · B2C · AI-native app studio

Profitable at 3x LTV/CAC; creative team tripled in 6 months to keep up

All ads fully AI-made for 2+ years, including screen-recording styles: ~4,000 video ads, hundreds of playable ads and thousands of statics per month. 6-person ads team mostly generates new ideas and prepares material; agentic video editing via Poolday once an angle is nailed; human video editors for one-offs, new concepts and taste; others build playable mini-game ads. Scaling volume required more diverse ideas, so the creative team grew 3x in 6 months.

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Sociaaal · B2C · AI-native app studio

Credited with staying market leader in their niches; no numbers

Treat creative as an infinite search space: spread tests across many new angles, concepts and formats; only when one works, make variations and go deeper there. Don't copy the market leader (they are the leader in most niches). Brute-forcing is impossible, so combine taste, data and process.

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AI surfaces videos (TikToks etc.) from completely different industries; creative analysts review them and, when relevant, turn them into ad ideas for the studio's apps, rather than copying the niche leader.

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WiseSam · B2C · personal AI assistant agent

Founders say the long quiz works very well; no numbers yet

Ad story continues into the funnel: users arriving from an ad get a long question flow (work situation, tools, where they chat, pain points, goals) with answers reflected back and a summary at the end, then 'Get Sam for $1' promo week, then $10/week, straight to Stripe checkout. Answers are actually used to personalize the agent. Direct website visitors skip most questions because they weren't warmed up by an ad. Funnel length and screens are A/B tested.

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WiseSam · B2C · personal AI assistant agent

Users get more engaged once the agent knows them; still needs more guidance

Instead of an empty chat, show opinionated buttons (helpful tasks, calendar, mailbox, 'let's get to know each other') that send a prepared message and have Sam ask e.g. for a voice note about the user. Goal: learn where they work, who matters, their goals. Next step: prepare ~10 quick-win use cases (birthday reminders, daily price checks) before asking for sensitive access like email.

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Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
SociaaalrevenueUSD 16M/year
approximate
annualized revenue, profitable3:44
Sociaaalfunding raisedUSD 1M
approximate
pre-seed equity; no equity since3:44
SociaaalrevenueUSD 11M/year
approximate
annualized revenue at the point the team was 11 people3:44
Sociaaalteam size11 peopleteam size at $11M annualized; has since grown3:44
SociaaalrevenueUSD 1Mper employee /year
approximate
revenue per employee at $11M / 11 people3:44
Sociaaalcount22 appsapps in portfolio4:12
Sociaaaldownloads40M downloads
approximate
across the portfolio8:34
Sociaaalactivity volume4,000 video ads/month
approximate
AI-made video ads produced per month; also hundreds of playable ads and thousands of statics4:12
Sociaaalactivity volume100 A/B tests/month
estimate
A/B tests run per month across the portfolio4:12
Fontmakerdownloads7M downloads
approximate
8:34
FontmakerrevenueUSD 200K/month
approximate
8:55
LitstickrevenueUSD 300K/month
approximate
just north of $300K/month9:09
Celebsrevenuesimilar to Litstick (~$300K+/month), a tiny bit bigger
approximate
9:15
AutoPasterevenuea bit smaller than Litstick/Celebs, closer to Fontmaker (~$200K/month)
approximate
9:15
Sociaaalarpu+3 x
estimate
average ARPU across the portfolio's apps over the last 18 months13:28
Sociaaalarpu+2 x
approximate
average ARPU across the portfolio's apps over the last 12 months13:28
Sociaaalltv cac3 x
approximate
LTV/CAC averaged across the portfolio; most apps near this14:27
CelebspriceUSD 6.99–14.99/week
approximate
weekly subscription range, host reading the store listing14:33
Sociaaalshare50%
illustrative
share of A/B tests that come out neutral (10 of ~20)15:25
Sociaaalshare25%
illustrative
share of A/B tests that are clearly negative (5 of ~20)15:25
Sociaaalshare15%
illustrative
share of A/B tests that look promising and get scaled up (3 of ~20)15:25
Sociaaalshare10%
illustrative
share of A/B tests that are clear wins (2 of ~20)15:25
WiseSampriceUSD 1/one-timefirst promo week price, then $10/week; web checkout via Stripe28:07
WiseSampriceUSD 10/weekweekly price after the $1 promo week28:07
Sociaaalteam size+3 x
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creative team size growth over the last 6 months while ad production was automated42:31
Sociaaalteam size6 peopleads team: mostly ideation, plus video editors and playable-ad makers43:40
marketcelebrity-lookalike curiosity: share of people who want to know their celebrity lookalikemarket size50%
estimate
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