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Sub Club by RevenueCat · 2025-12-10

Pivots, Funding, and Building Apps That Last – Greg Cohn, Burner

Greg Cohn (Ad Hoc Labs) on pivoting from the social calling app Wrangle to Burner, launching Burner as a $1.99 paid download with credits ($50K day one), raising angel and a ~$2M VC round, then converting to a breakeven/profitable business when Series A metrics weren't there. Covers moving from credits to subscriptions, harvesting high-intent search demand, self-selecting SKUs, making the free trial optional, a premium caller-lookup upsell, a white-label VPN inside Burner, failed standalone apps (Firewall, Dialed), faster paywall testing and plans to acquire complementary apps.

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Burner · B2C · second phone number app

Flood of calls and 10-100x the response of the old app; confirmed a real problem

While Wrangle (a network-dependent social calling app) struggled, the team spun its temporary-number 'Burner' feature into a standalone prototype. To test it they posted Craigslist ads (selling tickets, fake giveaways of flat-screen TVs) with a Burner number, measuring the inbound volume; they also showed it to friends and watched whether people said 'I want this' rather than 'my sister would like this'.

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Burner · B2C · second phone number app

New York Times interview and a panel slot; $50K revenue on launch day

At SXSW 2012 they showed the unfinished app to friends via TestFlight (not yet in the App Store). When a New York Times interview came up, they set up a 'war room' in the hotel, built a launch page and collected waitlist names; also landed a panel. At launch it was covered by GigaOm and hit the top of Hacker News.

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Burner · B2C · second phone number app

About $50K revenue on launch day

Because each phone number cost money on Twilio (on the founder's credit card), Burner launched as a $1.99 paid download including a free number for about seven days. Users then bought consumable credit packs (3, 8, 15 or 25 credits) to extend or add numbers. Prices were set so that if a user used every text and call minute allocated, the company broke exactly even on Twilio costs after Apple's cut; any unused allowance (breakage) was profit.

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After closing the angel round, Burner removed the paid download and became free to download, after working out the conversion math; launched on Android within the next 6-8 months.

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Burner · B2C · second phone number app

Didn't scale without lots of capital; stayed a premium, paid-first app

With VC money they tested making Burner freemium, alongside studying ad-supported competitors. Because every phone number costs money, giving numbers away to a million users and hoping 1% convert months later only works with a lot of capital. They saw a 'mile wide, inch deep' path and chose to stay revenue-driven and premium.

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Ad Hoc Labs · B2C · privacy app studio

Breakeven or profitable for 6-8 years, grew past $10M a year

When the VC cash was running low and the Series A was due, they judged they lacked the metrics (not 200% year-over-year growth). With insider (Founder Collective) support they converted to a breakeven business and have kept growing from profits. Greg advises most one- or two-founder consumer apps not to raise VC; use friends-and-family money (e.g. $20K for test ads) and accelerator SAFEs/notes that don't lock you into the VC path.

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Burner · B2C · second phone number app

Biggest single jump in revenue in company history; subscriptions now 90%+ of revenue

When App Store subscriptions arrived, they built a plan for the segment that wanted to keep their Burner number long term. Negotiated supplier contracts so it could be 'all you can eat': unlimited texts, voice minutes and picture messages (MMS, which they were first to ship commercially via aggregators). Launched with just monthly and annual options, then studied monthly vs annual take rate and monthly retention via cohorts.

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Burner · B2C · second phone number app

Fairly high churn from short-term users; founder now thinks credits might have fit them better

After subscriptions launched, they slowly de-emphasized consumable credits, assuming long-intent users would retain and short-intent users would simply churn early. Credits now mostly serve as top-ups for existing subscribers (~8-10% of revenue).

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Burner · B2C · second phone number app

Several million downloads a year of high-intent users; press-driven users didn't convert

Little brand marketing: mainstream press (e.g. Vogue) brought downloads that neither converted nor retained. Instead they focus UA and store presence on existing intent: App Store and search engine queries like 'second phone number', 'temporary phone number', 'private phone number' and the Burner brand name, backed by a mature UA program with many creative variants. Competitors bid on the Burner keyword to cannibalize brand searches.

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Burner · B2C · second phone number app

Very popular and a driver of premium upsells; founder didn't expect it to win

Premium-tier feature: when an unknown number calls your Burner, look it up through the telephony system and guess who the caller is. It came from a bucket of features tested (with surveys beforehand); the founder did not expect it to win. Other premium features: AI voicemail classifier, custom icons, higher-quality video messaging.

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Rather than predicting who is a 'tourist' (a weekend of Marketplace selling) versus a 'local' (a long-term second line), Burner offers standard and premium tiers, one-line and three-line, monthly and annual (8 SKUs) plus credit top-ups, and lets users self-select. Premium bundles features that matter only to long-term users (caller lookup, AI voicemail, custom icons, better video messages, VPN).

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Burner · B2C · second phone number app

Very positive A/B test result; no numbers given

Picked up from app-growth community talk about radio buttons on trial paywalls. Instead of defaulting everyone into a free trial, the paywall lets users choose: those who want to lock in their number can buy immediately, the unsure can take the trial. Run as an A/B test; trial treatments are 3-day and 7-day.

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Burner · B2C · second phone number app

Retains some users into a second number; 20-30% of new subs are returning users

Burning a number is a playful moment (a match sound and flame animation, originally so fun it caused accidental burns and support tickets). They use that moment to suggest getting a new number for the next need, and try to give short-term 'tourists' a good experience so they return later.

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Burner · B2C · second phone number app

Drove a lot of premium-tier growth, but cost more to build than it should have

Launched Q1 2025: a VPN built with a white-label provider, integrated into the Burner app and premium SKU, with desktop apps for Mac and Windows. Chosen over a separate app because Burner already gets several million high-intent downloads a year who are easier to offer it to. Integration was still expensive and slow; in hindsight they would have done it more nimbly.

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Firewall · B2C · robocall blocking app

Neither got real traction; one was killed by an Apple feature

Ad Hoc Labs built Firewall (robocall blocking) and Dialed (business phone numbers) as standalone apps with full launches and hardening, competing against incumbents like RoboKiller. Firewall was sherlocked when Apple shipped Silence Unknown Callers and never reached Android.

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Burner · B2C · second phone number app

From 1-2 paywall tests a month to several times that; about 1 in 4-5 wins

Added technology so paywall tests are shipped by the product team rather than gated on engineering. Velocity went from one or two paywall tests a month to a multiple of that; the bottleneck is now analytics and data maturity. Plan to extend to onboarding and win-back/cancellation flows.

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Cohort LTV is the 'true north' for picking experiment winners, but they can't wait for cohorts to mature, so they project from day-8 and day-30 signals. Users are bucketed into 3-day or 7-day trial treatments. Premium subs are optimized for long retention; lower-intent users are treated differently. Built client, server and marketing analytics from day one.

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In talks to acquire apps adjacent to Burner's privacy/communications brand, either as features inside Burner or standalone apps accelerated by Burner's funnel. Explicitly not an app farm: 'much easier for us to add five million in revenue to our app than it would be to take 500K app and turn into a $5 million app'. Goal is bundle-driven LTV and reaching a broader audience with a higher CAC target.

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Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
BurnerpriceUSD 1.99/one-timePaid download price at launch, including a free number for about seven days
BurnerrevenueUSD 50K/day
approximate
Revenue on launch day
Ad Hoc Labsfunding raisedUSD 500K
goal
Angel round target; not fully reached before launch
Ad Hoc Labsfunding raisedUSD 2M
approximate
VC round raised within about a year of launch
BurnerrevenueUSD 1M/year
approximate
First million-dollar year
BurnerrevenueUSD 5M/year
approximate
BurnerrevenueUSD 10M/year
approximate
Reached a couple of years after $5M; today 'multiples of that'
Ad Hoc Labsprofitbreakeven or meaningfully profitable for 6-8 years while growing top line
approximate
Burnershare90%
approximate
Share of revenue from subscriptions (more than 90%); the remaining ~8-10% is credits, mostly subscribers topping up
Burnercount8 SKUsSubscription SKUs: monthly/annual x one-line/three-line x standard/premium
Burnershare20–30%
approximate
Share of new subscriptions from returning (not first-time) subscribers
Ad Hoc Labsteam size30 people
approximate
Burnerdownloadsseveral million per year
approximate
Burneractivity volume1–2 paywall tests/month
approximate
Paywall test cadence before the new testing tooling; now 'a multiple of that'
Burnershare20–25%
approximate
Paywall test win rate: one winner for every four or five tests