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The Superwall Podcast · 2026-03-10

Jonathan Parra - I made 4,000 app paywalls and learned this

Former Superwall senior designer Jonathan Parra (4,000-4,500 paywalls designed) walks through A/B-tested paywalls: simplified plan pickers with 'No commitment, cancel anytime' (+10%), a two-plan annual/weekly trial layout, a simple 50%-off image paywall beating a comparison table (+111%), a Clear 30-style journey paywall with decline drawer and 33% one-time offer, video paywalls, a SwiftUI-native paywall for Pedometer++, and dark premium styling for a Pro tier. Also covers why niche custom-prompt AI apps can charge ChatGPT-level prices.

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16 tactics

An AI assistant app · B2C · Superwall customer

+10% conversion over the wordier paywall

Control: plans ordered weekly/annual/monthly with long names ('AI Assistant Weekly', 'AI Assistant Annual'), a small 'Limited time 70% off' badge and a CTA 'Put AI into action'. Variant: plans renamed 'Annual plan', 'Monthly plan', 'Weekly plan' with annual on top and highlighted, price compared against the cheapest plan, badge cut to '70% off' and centered ('limited time' in small text doesn't work; put urgency in the heading only on a true one-time-offer paywall), a check mark 'No commitment, cancel anytime' line, and a plain 'Continue' button.

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An AI assistant app · B2C · Superwall customer

Big conversion jump per the slide; exact number not read out

Removed the monthly plan so the picker shows annual (still preselected, since it has the highest LTV and ARPU) and weekly with a 3-day free trial; CTA changed to 'Start my 3-day free trial' instead of 'Put AI into action'. Fewer options cut decision fatigue and the trial copy makes users feel safe continuing. Guest would also test an annual + monthly variant, and puts any third plan behind a 'View all plans' button.

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Practitioner pattern · Jonathan Parra (Sells paywall design and A/B-testing services to app companies (mentions sales calls and customers 'working with us'))

Small but steady conversion bump, per the guest

Add a 'No commitment, cancel anytime' subtitle or check-mark line near the CTA on nearly every paywall the guest designs; described as a simple hack with a granular bump in conversion rate.

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Practitioner pattern · Jonathan Parra (Sells paywall design and A/B-testing services to app companies (mentions sales calls and customers 'working with us'))

Guest's standard setup; no numbers given

Avoid showing three plans on the main footer (decision fatigue); show two (e.g. annual + weekly) and hide others behind a 'View all plans' button, or sometimes hide the whole product group. When several plans are shown, order them strictly by length (ascending or descending), never weekly/annual/monthly. Default-select yearly because it usually has the highest LTV.

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A self-improvement journey app · B2C · guest's paywall client

No result given; guest's go-to for apps that already test a lot

Main paywall defaults to the ~$39-40/year plan with 'Start' and small price text. On close, a drawer slides up: 'Not ready to commit for a year? We have plans for everyone.' Yearly stays selected but is shown as a weekly price ($0.76/week) next to a monthly or weekly plan. If users tap 'Not now, thanks', show a one-time-offer paywall with the yearly plan at ~$30/year (33% off) and a chevron arrow on the button. If many users pick monthly, read it as a sign onboarding didn't show the product well enough.

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Practitioner pattern · Jonathan Parra (Sells paywall design and A/B-testing services to app companies (mentions sales calls and customers 'working with us'))

Works across categories for journey-style apps, per the guest; no numbers

For apps that transform the user over a week, month or other timeline, use a Clear 30-inspired paywall with steps showing where the user will be after the plan, positioning the user as the hero of their story; add 'No commitment, cancel anytime' and default to yearly. Best for apps with a clear USP and a closed feedback loop (before vs after).

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Practitioner pattern · Jonathan Parra (Sells paywall design and A/B-testing services to app companies (mentions sales calls and customers 'working with us'))

Use 25-33% off on regular one-time-offer paywalls. Save large discounts for Black Friday / Cyber Monday; running too many or too-large sales trains freemium users to wait for deals and cheapens the product, so avoid big discounts especially for larger apps.

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A subscription app · B2C · Superwall customer

+111% conversion; revenue per user also rose

Control: 'Upgrade from free to premium' with a free-vs-premium comparison table and 3/6/12-month plans with dense price copy ('$49.99, not $99.99, monthly price billed quarterly'). Variant (copied from Cal AI): headline 'We want you to try [app name] for 50% off' (or '...for free' when a trial plan is selected), a large image or video of the app on a phone, 'No commitment, cancel anytime', and a bigger 'Continue' button leading to a second screen with more details.

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Practitioner pattern · Jonathan Parra (Sells paywall design and A/B-testing services to app companies (mentions sales calls and customers 'working with us'))

Guest says bigger buttons and the arrow bump conversions; no numbers

Default CTA height 65pt (sometimes 56pt) with large button text; a right chevron arrow on the button also bumps conversions (tested as its own variant, not bundled with other changes). Tip came from Superwall's founder Jake in an internal channel and was rolled out across paywalls.

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Practitioner pattern · Jonathan Parra (Sells paywall design and A/B-testing services to app companies (mentions sales calls and customers 'working with us'))

One of the few layouts that performs well across categories, per the guest

First paywall for a new app: one screen with the USP heading and subtitle, a bullet list of what you get, social accolades, a 'No commitment' subtitle and the continue button. Use it as the baseline, then build variants by dropping in reusable components: an image or video of the app in action (Fitness AI style), extra pages with social proof/reviews for larger apps, a 'Try 7 days free' CTA with chevron, a table instead of bullets, etc.

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Practitioner pattern · Jonathan Parra (Sells paywall design and A/B-testing services to app companies (mentions sales calls and customers 'working with us'))

Guest says design tests give the most mileage; no numbers

Prioritize design tests and price-packaging tests (which plans, naming, order). Delay price-point tests: in Superwall they require keeping users in fixed cohorts/audiences via user seeds for every experiment, which is painful to manage, so run them only after many other tests.

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A glow-up app for women · B2C · guest's paywall client

Won its A/B test; no numbers given

Mojo-inspired paywall: a Rotato-rendered video of the app in action on a phone (guest screen-records himself using the app and drops it into a Rotato template), social proof, simple bullets, monthly vs yearly plans, and a targeted CTA 'Start my glow up' for a largely female audience. Components (video, slider, text) are then swapped in further variants.

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Pedometer++ · B2C · step counter app

Beat more custom designs 'by quite a long shot'; worked again for a second app

For an app built on stock SwiftUI styling, designed an Apple-esque paywall (app icon at top, SF Pro / SF Pro Rounded text, SwiftUI list-item styles) and tested it against more customized variants. Guest repeated it with another app. A Superwall template exists for this style.

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A two-tier subscription app · B2C · guest's agency client

More users chose the top plan; no numbers

Two-tier app (Plus and higher Pro, each weekly/monthly/quarterly), Hinge-inspired paywall. The Plus tier shows on a white background; selecting Pro fades to a dark premium-looking background, contrasting with the onboarding so users sense something is different. Users toggle between tiers on the paywall and land back on the premium look.

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Blinkist · B2C · book summary app

Still a very high performer after years of copying, per the guest

Paywall lays out the trial as a timeline: today you unlock the app, day 5 you get a reminder notification, day 7 billing starts. Widely copied from Blinkist.

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A niche AI chat app · B2C · guest's contact

Users pay for it, per the guest; no revenue shared

A phone chat product with a carefully tuned, personalized prompt for one niche, billed at $20-22/month (ChatGPT/Claude level) instead of the ~$30-40/year typical of AI wrappers.

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Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
personJonathan Parra, paywalls designedcount4,000 paywalls
approximate
Paywalls designed by the guest2:58
personJonathan Parra, paywalls designedcount4,500 paywalls
estimate
Guest's updated figure5:11
personJonathan Parra, paywalls designed as of September 2024count2,000 paywalls
approximate
From the guest's September 2024 tweet: 2,000 paywalls in 2 years4:52
Superwall customer: AI assistant app ('Put AI into action')conversion rate+10%Simplified plan picker + 'No commitment, cancel anytime' + 'Continue' CTA vs control6:01
Superwall customer with a comparison-table paywallconversion rate+111%Simple 'try for 50% off' image paywall vs comparison-table paywall; guest adds ARPU also rose significantly26:04
aggregateTrial starters on Superwall customer paywallschurn50%
approximate
Share of users who cancel after starting a free trial, on average12:10
benchmarkYearly price for text-based AI wrapper appspriceUSD 30–40/year
approximate
Standard yearly price when inference is mostly text; image/video apps price higher15:49
benchmarkCommon yearly price point for AI wrapper appspriceUSD 29.99/year
approximate
Price the market settled on: profitable with good margins, still affordable20:40
Client with a Clear 30-inspired transformation paywallpriceUSD 39/yearDefault yearly plan; reframed as $0.76/week in the decline drawer19:00
Client with a Clear 30-inspired transformation paywallpriceUSD 30/year
approximate
One-time-offer yearly price after 'Not now, thanks' (from ~$40)17:42
benchmarkDiscount on a regular (non-holiday) one-time-offer paywallshare25–33%
approximate
Discount size; bigger sales saved for Black Friday / Cyber Monday19:47
Niche AI chat app charging ~$20/monthpriceUSD 20–22/month
estimate
21:55
aggregatePaywall conversion rate across the guest's client apps before optimizationconversion rate8%
approximate
Average paywall conversion rate the guest sees across the board55:09
aggregatePaywall conversion rate the guest reaches for client apps after a couple of test iterationsconversion rate15–20%
approximate
After a couple of iterations, with no extra ad spend or product work55:09
aggregateMonthly revenue of the guest's recent paywall clientsrevenueUSD 10K–50K/month
approximate
54:49