The Superwall Podcast · 2026-02-17
Ryan Thorpe - Meet The Guy Dominating The App Store
Ryan Thorpe ran a portfolio of 30+ health, fitness and productivity apps (Reflectly, Done/Do Habit, Mindfulness App) with 50M+ downloads. Reflectly reached ~$3-4M ARR on Facebook UGC ads at break-even; from 2020 they rolled up 30-35 under-monetized apps instead. Growth came from an in-house army of ~250 TikTok creators with strict briefs, organic-first posting, a 3-level TikTok ad structure, and spending ~75% of the yearly ad budget in January, when installs cost about half. Done hit #1 free app in the US on Jan 2-3 two years running. He sold most apps to Codion and now builds Flowed.
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Numbers mentioned
| Who | Metric | Value | Context | When |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Reflectly | arr | USD 3M–4M estimate | Peak ARR around 2020 | 4:44 |
| Reflectly | ad spend | about the same as revenue approximate | Ad spend roughly equal to revenue at peak, so net break-even | 4:50 |
| Done | payback period | 12–18 months approximate | Time to recoup the acquisition price of Done (plus 5-6 bundled apps) after improving paywalls and subscriptions | 6:25 |
| Done | count | 5–6 apps approximate | Extra apps that came bundled with the Done acquisition | 6:06 |
| Reflective Apps | count | 30–35 apps approximate | Apps acquired 2020-2025 | 6:47 |
| Reflective Apps | downloads | 50M downloads approximate | Total downloads across the portfolio; guest says probably more | 7:06 |
| Reflective Apps | cpi | +-50% approximate | Average cost per download in the first week of January vs the rest of the year (health, fitness, productivity apps); 'maybe more' | 19:39 |
| Reflective Apps | share | 75%/year approximate | Share of the annual ad budget spent in the first month of the year | 19:39 |
| Reflective Apps | ad spend | USD 10–20per video approximate | Level 1 test budget per video (each video its own ad set); kill after $5-10 if off-target, graduate after $20-40 over 1-2 days | 16:25 |
| Reflective Apps | ad spend | USD 100–500 approximate | Level 2 budget per ad set of 4-5 graduated videos | 17:09 |
| Reflective Apps | share | 90% approximate | Share of ad spend taken by the 1-2 level 3 'evergreen' videos | 17:30 |
| Reflective Apps | views | 5,000–10K viewsper video approximate | Organic view level that signals a video is breaking out of the 0-300 view 'jail' and is worth boosting with ads | 12:12 |
| Done | views | 66.9M viewsper video | Top creator video for Done; same creator hit again back-to-back; 20-40 other creators copying it failed | 20:53 |
| Reflective Apps | views | 50M–60M viewsper video approximate | Creator video with an Emma Chamberlain motivational speech in the background (later drew a cease and desist) | 14:14 |
| Done | rank | 1 | Top free app, US App Store, all categories, on Jan 2-3 two years in a row | 23:13 |
| Reflective Apps | ad spend | USD 25Kper ad illustrative | January spend on a solid but lesser hook-and-reaction ad, vs ~$100K on a top ad | 29:05 |
| benchmarkDaily test spend for health/fitness apps during Dec 26-28 before the New Year peak | ad spend | USD 5,000–10K/day illustrative | Test spend to find the best ~10 videos; expect them to perform ~2x better on Jan 1-2 | 24:16 |
| Reflective Apps | count | 250 creators approximate | Creators working regularly with the portfolio (500-700 cycled through; 2,000+ on the books) | 34:17 |
| Reflective Apps | count | 2,000 creators estimate | Creators on the books in total; ~10% became regulars and 1-2% of those were 'viral sensations' | 38:33 |
| Reflective Apps | conversion rate | 10% estimate | Creators on the books -> regular collaborators | 38:33 |
| Reflective Apps | followers | 2,000–20K followersper creator approximate | Preferred follower range when recruiting creators (lower is better; not paying for influence) | 35:15 |
| Reflective Apps | creator pay | USD 30–40per video approximate | Flat fee per video, lower-tier creators | 40:45 |
| Reflective Apps | creator pay | USD 80–100per video approximate | Flat fee per video, reliable/experienced creators | 40:45 |
| Reflective Apps | creator pay | USD 200–1,000per video approximate | Discretionary bonus when a video really took off as an ad; a separate flat bonus applied at 50K-100K+ organic views | 41:04 |
| Reflective Apps | team size | 3 people approximate | Core growth team: the guest, a media buyer and a head of content managing creators | 17:56 |
| Mindfulness App | arpu | really, really high approximate | Loyal long-term user base with very high engagement | 42:11 |
| benchmarkB2B corporate wellness contracts for health/mindfulness apps | acv | a couple of hundred thousand dollars over 3-5 years illustrative | One contract can be ~a quarter of yearly revenue; 6-12 months to close one; 12-18 months to wind up the B2B line | 43:14 |
| benchmarkSales cycle for a B2B corporate wellness contract | time to milestone | 6–12 months approximate | Time to close one B2B contract | 43:51 |
| Reflective Apps | share | 80–90% approximate | Share of the portfolio's apps sold off, mostly to Codion | 49:13 |