Cal AI · B2C · photo calorie tracking app
Sign a second creator in the same niche as your best one
Didn't work at all; the first creator made $100K profit in a month
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What they did
After one creator paid $20K for a month drove $120K of signups (~$100K profit), signed another creator in the same niche.
What happened
The second creator didn't do well at all; guest thinks the niche audience had already seen the app. Large niches like fitness can take many creators; small ones only one.
- Effort
- one creator
“And then we tried to sign another creator that was in the same niche as them, and they didn't do well at all.”
“sometimes doing more in a niche means that your ROI goes down, because people have already seen it.”
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