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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-03

Lotanna Ezeike - He Built a Simple $120k/Yr App, Then Sold It For Multiple 6 Figures!

Joseph Choi interviews Lotanna 'Lotts' Ezeike, who builds faith-niche copies of proven apps and sells them fast. Praycreen (pray to unlock your phone, a One Sec clone for Christians) hit ~$120K ARR in 5-6 months via shock-hook TikTok UGC and Meta ads at $0.39-0.80 US CPI, monetized non-payers with ads before each prayer, and sold within a week of a tweet. Also covers BibleBuddy (WhatsApp bot, Twitter pastor-follower targeting), Magic Music, Toxic Traits rage-bait content, and exit advice (2-6x ARR, take the fast close).

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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

~$120K ARR in 5-6 months; first 'Bible focus' app, then 70 copycats

Noticed the screen-time/focus trend (Opal, One Sec, Screens), downloaded One Sec and saw it just makes you breathe for 3 seconds before opening Instagram yet makes ~$100K/month. Rebuilt the same mechanic for the faith niche he already worked in: block apps and make the user pray to unlock them. It was the only listing for 'Bible focus' at launch.

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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

Early comments were angry, then turned to 'I needed this'; main driver of growth

Worked with an agency running 10-12 TikTok accounts, testing different hooks. Optimized for comments and engagement ('comment farming'). Chose a shock-factor angle that felt like the opposite of religion itself; early comments were 'why would you do this?' before shifting to 'I really needed this app'. Made 20-30 videos on the winning angle. Pick the one emotion you want viewers to feel after each video.

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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

Founder says it brands the video without showing onboarding; no numbers

Invest in a nice splash animation (Praycreen's halo coming up) and use it in content. In each video show three things: the splash screen for half a second to a second (branding), the core action (the prayer screen), then the congratulations screen ('you've done your first prayer'). Skip onboarding entirely in the TikTok. Toxic Traits did the same: splash page, screenshot upload, then an example results page.

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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

Viewers commented on the songs; founder says it helped

Chose songs strategically: very Christian songs that the target audience recognizes, so viewers comment things like 'I love this song'.

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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

$0.39 best-day CPI, $0.70-0.80 average in the US; one video took 70% of spend

After TikTok organic, ran Meta ads on Instagram using creatives that had already performed organically. Reasoning: on TikTok you don't control who sees a video, so if a general audience engages, the video itself is strong; putting spend behind it and targeting the exact audience you want should give very low CPIs. One organic video (out of 20-30 on the same angle) was repurposed and ended up taking ~70% of spend.

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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

~$0.05 per user per day; ad spend paid back in 14-15 days

Install-to-paid conversion was unremarkable (~2.5% as an example), meaning 97.5% of paid installs were being turned away. Because 60% of users were still praying 4 times a day at day 30, they added a free version funded by ads: users watch an interstitial ad before each prayer, about 4 ads per user per day.

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BibleBuddy · B2C · AI Bible chat companion

Grew at first, but WhatsApp's ~$0.02 per conversation got too expensive

BibleBuddy first ran as a WhatsApp bot (a therapist/journal chat that relates your message to a Bible chapter) before becoming an app. The WhatsApp Business API charged about $0.02 per conversation window.

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BibleBuddy · B2C · AI Bible chat companion

Host calls it an underpriced channel; no costs or results given

Committed Christians tend to follow a favorite celebrity pastor, so following one is a good signal. Listed the top 20-25 most famous pastors, found their Twitter/X accounts, and targeted their followers with Twitter ads (the option is now called follower look-alike). Guest thinks few other platforms offer this (maybe Facebook for pages).

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BibleBuddy · B2C · AI Bible chat companion

Couldn't crack monetization; founder was wary of charging for faith content

BibleBuddy monetized with banner ads and did not use interstitial ads; the guest was hesitant to monetize Christianity at all.

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Magic Music · B2C · AI song generator app

After a friend's multilingual ChatGPT copy made ~$500K a month, he committed to wrapping the next AI release fast. When Suno announced AI music, he built Magic Music within 4 days despite Suno having no API, and emailed Suno's founder asking for legitimate access to more songs.

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Toxic Traits · B2C · AI texting red-flag checker

Founder says the formats worked; 330 videos ready, ads never tested

Video captions like 'Looks like a big red flag to me. What do you say, girls?' over a screenshot that doesn't clearly look like a red flag (e.g. 'You demand respect, but you haven't done anything to earn it'), so people argue with each other in the comments. Then the splash page, a screenshot upload, and an example (not real) results page. A second format was talking-head: 'I didn't think twice. I immediately send this text to an AI. Look at the result it gave me', then the scan.

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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

Buyers DMed; sold within a week (3 days) to a past BibleBuddy suitor

Tweeted about Praycreen (his audience knew he'd sold apps before; the app was easy to explain). Several buyers DMed. Sold to a buyer who had talked to him about BibleBuddy ~1.5-2 years earlier. His rule: since 90%+ of deals fall through, take even the third-highest price if that buyer can close in 4-5 days. Offer a 1-2 month transition/advising period to sweeten the deal. Show 3+ months of consistent revenue.

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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

Buyers usually translate first; founder says it makes the app easier to sell

He never localizes his apps into other languages himself. When selling, he frames the app as 'this content already works and we haven't tried X, Y, Z', giving the buyer clear levers; buyers typically localize first, since everyone competes for the US while other markets are large.

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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

Several exits; buyers and funders now come back to him

Rather than chasing a million-ARR hit, repeatedly build apps to around $5-10K MRR (or ~$100K ARR), sell them, and use the cash, skills and buyer/investor relationships for bigger swings. Build for cash flow, not legacy, and decide which before you start.

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CarSpotr · B2C · Pokémon-style car spotting app

$8K MRR in about 4 months

A Viral App Founders member (Sean) dropped an ambitious AI social app idea on the guest's advice and built CarSpotr, a Pokémon-style car photo collecting app, promoting it with only one TikTok account and one Instagram account.

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Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
PraycreenarrUSD 120K
approximate
After running it for 5-6 months2:12
Praycreenexit pricemultiple six figures
approximate
Figure from the episode title; the body does not state the price2:12
Praycreentime to milestone1 weeks
approximate
Time to close the sale after tweeting about it2:12
Praycreentime to milestone3 days
approximate
Time to close with the buyer who had known him from BibleBuddy talks (second telling)20:12
Praycreenretention60%
approximate
D30 retention of users praying 4 times a day5:28
PraycreencpiUSD 0.39/dayBest day, US, Meta ads on Instagram6:01
PraycreencpiUSD 0.7–0.8
approximate
Average, US, Meta ads on Instagram6:01
Praycreenshare70%
approximate
Share of ad spend taken by one repurposed organic video (host restated it as 70% of installs; guest agreed)6:28
Praycreencount20–30 videos
approximate
Videos made on the winning angle6:58
Praycreencount10–12 TikTok accounts
approximate
TikTok accounts run with an agency2:50
Praycreenconversion rate2.5%
illustrative
Install -> paid; given as an example of their unremarkable conversion8:21
PraycreenarpuUSD 0.05per user /day
approximate
Ad revenue per free user per day (an interstitial before each of ~4 daily prayers)8:46
Praycreenpayback period14–15 days
approximate
Return on ad spend reached via ad revenue from free users9:08
Praycreencount4 adsper user /dayInterstitial ads per user per day, one before each prayer10:25
marketApp Store listings for 'Bible focus' 2-3 months after Praycreen launched as the only onecount70 listings
approximate
12:40
BibleBuddyusers100K users/month
approximate
Monthly active users12:56
BibleBuddycostUSD 0.02per conversation window
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WhatsApp Business API cost when BibleBuddy ran as a WhatsApp bot13:02
Magic Musictime to milestone4 days
approximate
Build time from Suno's announcement to Magic Music15:15
Toxic Traitscount330 pieces of contentReady-to-post content included in the sale17:07
CarSpotrmrrUSD 8,000
approximate
About 4 months after starting, with 1 TikTok and 1 Instagram account9:56
CarSpotrtime to milestone4 months
approximate
Time to $8K MRR10:18
One SecrevenueUSD 100K/month
approximate
4:33
OpalarrUSD 5M
approximate
4:22
Whiteout SurvivalrevenueUSD 53M/month
approximate
iOS + Android, read live off Sensor Tower10:49
Whiteout SurvivalrevenueUSD 51M/month
approximate
iOS only, read live off Sensor Tower (as stated; looks inconsistent with the 53M total)10:51
Friend's multilingual ChatGPT clonerevenueUSD 500K/month
approximate
14:52
benchmarkApp acquisition prices the guest has seen, as a multiple of ARRvaluation2–6 x ARR
approximate
21:16
benchmarkShare of app acquisition deals that fall throughshare90%
estimate
'90% plus'21:16
benchmarkMinimum revenue history buyers want to see when buying an apptime to milestone3 months
approximate
3+ months of consistent revenue; longer is better22:48
benchmarkMRR at which a first app is sellable, per the guestmrrUSD 5,000–10K
approximate
18:29