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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-03

Lotanna Ezeike - He Built a Simple $120k/Yr App, Then Sold It For Multiple 6 Figures!

Joseph Choi interviews Lotanna 'Lotts' Ezeike, who builds faith-niche copies of proven apps and sells them fast. Praycreen (pray to unlock your phone, a One Sec clone for Christians) hit ~$120K ARR in 5-6 months via shock-hook TikTok UGC and Meta ads at $0.39-0.80 US CPI, monetized non-payers with ads before each prayer, and sold within a week of a tweet. Also covers BibleBuddy (WhatsApp bot, Twitter pastor-follower targeting), Magic Music, Toxic Traits rage-bait content, and exit advice (2-6x ARR, take the fast close).

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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

~$120K ARR in 5-6 months; first 'Bible focus' app, then 70 copycats
“And I remember I think it was specifically One Sec, I downloaded the app just to try it. And literally all it does is that you open Instagram, it just says, "Hey, breathe for 3 seconds," and then it opens Instagram for you.”
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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

Early comments were angry, then turned to 'I needed this'; main driver of growth
“So we had like I think 10 or 12 TikTok accounts. So we had an agency that actually helped us with that and with scaling that.”
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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

Founder says it brands the video without showing onboarding; no numbers
“The splash page is when you open the app first, that kind of like first animation you see. So for us it was a Praycreen kind of like halo thing coming up. Making that really nice, and then using that for the content.”
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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

Viewers commented on the songs; founder says it helped
“we were very strategic about the songs that we put. So we made sure that we put like super Christian songs as well, so you see people commenting like, "Oh, I love this song,"”
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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

$0.39 best-day CPI, $0.70-0.80 average in the US; one video took 70% of spend
“I'd say TikTok was, and then we then did a lot of like Meta ads for Instagram. That did really well.”
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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

~$0.05 per user per day; ad spend paid back in 14-15 days
“Another way of looking at that is that you're basically telling 97.5 people to fuck off. So we were like, "Okay, our retention's super good, so what we should do is actually have a free version, but then have ads instead."”
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BibleBuddy · B2C · AI Bible chat companion

Grew at first, but WhatsApp's ~$0.02 per conversation got too expensive
“And actually how we freshly originally grew it wasn't actually an app. First it was a a WhatsApp bot, and then like it started costing me like crazy”
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BibleBuddy · B2C · AI Bible chat companion

Host calls it an underpriced channel; no costs or results given
“So I found that hardcore Christians normally have an affinity to like one pastor, or like one like celebrity pastors.”
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BibleBuddy · B2C · AI Bible chat companion

Couldn't crack monetization; founder was wary of charging for faith content
“So we happened we started doing ads at first, which was more like banner ads, I remember, but at the time we didn't do the interstitial ones. I couldn't crack how to monetize it properly.”
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Magic Music · B2C · AI song generator app

“So I just I told myself, I was like, "Yo, the next AI thing that comes out, I'm going to wrap that shit super quickly."”
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Toxic Traits · B2C · AI texting red-flag checker

Founder says the formats worked; 330 videos ready, ads never tested
“And then specifically, you show something that doesn't actually look like a red flag, because then people are going to argue in the comments. Like something that just seems like ambiguous.”
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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

Buyers DMed; sold within a week (3 days) to a past BibleBuddy suitor
“And then we just basically tweeted about it. And because I've sold multiple things before, like the tweet did numbers.”
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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

Buyers usually translate first; founder says it makes the app easier to sell
“Well, normally whenever I get a buyer, that's the first thing they do. Just because like everyone's competing for the US market, uh but there's also like so many other markets that are super big.”
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Praycreen · B2C · pray-to-unlock phone app

Several exits; buyers and funders now come back to him
“I'm very good at repeatably doing the same thing over and over again. Yes, my MRR doesn't get to the millions or ARR doesn't get to the millions, cuz I'm not scaling it itself, but it's like I get lots of shots on goal.”
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CarSpotr · B2C · Pokémon-style car spotting app

$8K MRR in about 4 months
“I think about 4 months or something, and all he has is 1 TikTok account and 1 Instagram account.”
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Numbers mentioned

SubjectMetricValueQuote
Praycreenarr
After running it for 5-6 months
USD 120K
approximate
“I think we were running it for like 5, 6 months, got it to like 120k ARR.”
Praycreenexit price
Figure from the episode title; the body does not state the price
multiple six figures
approximate
“Had a few buyers DM us, and the buyer that we actually end up selling to”
Praycreentime to milestone
Time to close the sale after tweeting about it
1 weeks
approximate
“We closed within like 1 week. So that was pretty sick.”
Praycreentime to milestone
Time to close with the buyer who had known him from BibleBuddy talks (second telling)
3 days
approximate
“they came at Praycreen like a year and a half later, and they closed that within 3 days”
Praycreenretention
D30 retention of users praying 4 times a day
60%
approximate
“We had 60% Day 30 retention of like daily praying 4 times a day.”
Praycreencpi
Best day, US, Meta ads on Instagram
USD 0.39/day“The best day we had was like $0.39 per install in the US market”
Praycreencpi
Average, US, Meta ads on Instagram
USD 0.7–0.8
approximate
“I think we end up averaging out like $0.70 or $0.80 per install um in the US market, which is insane because like most people are getting like $1.50”
Praycreenshare
Share of ad spend taken by one repurposed organic video (host restated it as 70% of installs; guest agreed)
70%
approximate
“For us, there was like one video that was like out of all the like ones that just did so well where it had like 70% of our spend.”
Praycreencount
Videos made on the winning angle
20–30 videos
approximate
“We had like 20 or 30 videos of that kind of like angle, but that one specifically just did so well”
Praycreencount
TikTok accounts run with an agency
10–12 TikTok accounts
approximate
“So we had like I think 10 or 12 TikTok accounts. So we had an agency that actually helped us with that and with scaling that.”
Praycreenconversion rate
Install -> paid; given as an example of their unremarkable conversion
2.5%
illustrative
“if our conversion is like 2.5%, for example, what that's basically telling us is that we are spending x amount for like let's say 100 users to come in”
Praycreenarpu
Ad revenue per free user per day (an interstitial before each of ~4 daily prayers)
USD 0.05per user /day
approximate
“I think we were making like $0.05 per user per day um on ads.”
Praycreenpayback period
Return on ad spend reached via ad revenue from free users
14–15 days
approximate
“It took us like about 14 or 15 days to get a return on investment.”
Praycreencount
Interstitial ads per user per day, one before each prayer
4 adsper user /day“Because we did four ads a day for each person, cuz they have to watch an ad before they do a prayer”
marketApp Store listings for 'Bible focus' 2-3 months after Praycreen launched as the only onecount70 listings
approximate
“And then like gave it like 2, 3 months, and then there's like 70 listings now, all called like Bible Focus”
BibleBuddyusers
Monthly active users
100K users/month
approximate
“So you had BibleBuddy. You hit 100,000 monthly active users.”
BibleBuddycost
WhatsApp Business API cost when BibleBuddy ran as a WhatsApp bot
USD 0.02per conversation window
approximate
“because the WhatsApp Business API or whatever charged like $0.02 per conversation window or something like that”
Magic Musictime to milestone
Build time from Suno's announcement to Magic Music
4 days
approximate
“And within 4 days, I created Magic Music.”
Toxic Traitscount
Ready-to-post content included in the sale
330 pieces of content“Already has 330 pieces of content already ready to go, and I we haven't really tested ads or anything like that um on it at all.”
CarSpotrmrr
About 4 months after starting, with 1 TikTok and 1 Instagram account
USD 8,000
approximate
“and he recently just hit 8k MRR.”
CarSpotrtime to milestone
Time to $8K MRR
4 months
approximate
“I think about 4 months or something, and all he has is 1 TikTok account and 1 Instagram account.”
One SecrevenueUSD 100K/month
approximate
“And I was just like, "Wait, hold on, they're making 100k a month? What the hell?"”
OpalarrUSD 5M
approximate
“Cuz I know Opal makes like 5 million ARR.”
Whiteout Survivalrevenue
iOS + Android, read live off Sensor Tower
USD 53M/month
approximate
“53 million a month!”
Whiteout Survivalrevenue
iOS only, read live off Sensor Tower (as stated; looks inconsistent with the 53M total)
USD 51M/month
approximate
“And then iOS is 51.”
Friend's multilingual ChatGPT clonerevenueUSD 500K/month
approximate
“it's exactly a replica of ChatGPT, but they just did it for like different languages and all that kind of crap, and they were making half a mil a month”
benchmarkApp acquisition prices the guest has seen, as a multiple of ARRvaluation2–6 x ARR
approximate
“I've seen like 2x to 6x. That's uh the spread I've seen of ARR, generally.”
benchmarkShare of app acquisition deals that fall throughshare
'90% plus'
90%
estimate
“Bro, most deals fall through, like 90% plus.”
benchmarkMinimum revenue history buyers want to see when buying an apptime to milestone
3+ months of consistent revenue; longer is better
3 months
approximate
“I think 3 months and above is good.”
benchmarkMRR at which a first app is sellable, per the guestmrrUSD 5,000–10K
approximate
“if you can get something to like even 5 to 10k MRR, you can sell that thing, right?”