The Superwall Podcast · 2025-12-16
Vahe Baghdasaryan - Our No-Code Apps Made $50M Using THIS Paywall
Vahe Baghdasaryan runs Tangent, a paywall agency, and walks through Superwall paywalls he built for clients. He gives benchmarks (trial start rate 15%+, trial-to-paid 30%+, install-to-paid 4-10%+) and an entertainment app that went from 1.1% to ~4% install-to-paid in five months with no paid UA. Tactics: multi-step paywalls that repeat 'free' many times (Claim, 34% trial start), dropping the trial at Claim, a spin-wheel discount at Cal AI, trial toggles at Rizz and Cal AI, prices hidden behind a button at Quitter, annual-only transaction-abandonment discounts, and adding missing placements.
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Numbers mentioned
| Who | Metric | Value | Context | When |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| benchmarkGood trial start rate for free-trial apps | conversion rate | 15% approximate | install/paywall -> trial start; above 15% is good, below means a lot of work to do | 4:46 |
| benchmarkGood trial-to-paid rate | conversion rate | 30% approximate | trial -> paid; above 30% is good | 4:46 |
| aggregateHealthy apps with 8-11% trial start rate seen by Tangent | conversion rate | 8–11% estimate | trial start rate; in ~90% of such cases it can easily reach 15% | 4:46 |
| benchmarkGood install-to-paid rate for non-trial apps with mostly US users | conversion rate | 10% approximate | install -> paid; 10%+ is really good, 4-10% is middling | 5:36 |
| benchmarkMinimum acceptable install-to-paid rate | conversion rate | 4% approximate | install -> paid; below 4% means a problem | 5:36 |
| aggregateApps helped by Tangent, per host | revenue | +USD 100K approximate | Revenue increase in ~3 months from paywall work alone, no new users | 6:04 |
| Tangent client entertainment app with ~40-50K organic installs/month | downloads | 40K–50K installs/month approximate | Stable organic installs; no paid UA | 6:37 |
| Tangent client entertainment app with ~40-50K organic installs/month | conversion rate | 1.1% | install -> paid, before Tangent | 6:37 |
| Tangent client entertainment app with ~40-50K organic installs/month | conversion rate | 4% approximate | install -> paid after 5 months of placements + experiments, no paid UA | 1:11 |
| Claim | price | USD 59.99/year | Annual plan labeled 'Try it free', 3-day trial, shown as ~$1/week | 12:08 |
| aggregateMulti-step trial paywall vs single-screen 'start free trial' paywall, across Tangent clients | conversion rate | +20–40% approximate | Uplift in conversion; 40% in many cases | 14:53 |
| Claim | conversion rate | 34% | trial start rate with the multi-step trial paywall | 15:57 |
| Claim | conversion rate | 50–55% approximate | trial -> paid, before removing the trial | 16:56 |
| Cal AI | conversion rate | double-digit increase approximate | Spin-wheel discount presentation vs showing the discount directly (A/B test); exact figure withheld | 21:59 |
| Rizz | price | USD 9.99/week | Default: with 7-day free trial | 22:45 |
| Rizz | price | USD 6.99/week | 'Skip free trial' toggled: pay now, no trial | 22:45 |
| Quitter | price | USD 3.33/month | Annual plan shown as monthly equivalent (~$40/year) | 28:52 |
| Quitter | price | USD 12.99/month | Monthly plan | 28:52 |
| Quitter | price | USD 40/year approximate | Annual price ($3.33 x 12 = $39.96), host's calculation | 31:57 |
| aggregateUsers choosing the no-trial (deeper discount) option on transaction-abandonment paywalls with a trial toggle | share | 10% approximate | share of abandonment-paywall buyers who skip the trial for 90% off instead of 80% off with trial | 34:30 |
| aggregateApps that name the trial plan 'free' instead of annual/monthly | drop off | +10% estimate | Possible increase in transaction abandonment | 39:52 |