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Sub Club by RevenueCat · 2023-07-12

Achieving Mission & Profit with Freemium — Erin Webster-Shaller and Paul Apollo, Lose It!

Lose It! VP of Marketing Erin Webster-Shaller and SVP of Operations Paul Apollo on running a mission-driven freemium calorie tracker: a long onboarding that lifted trial starts by double digits, letting users set up premium features before the paywall, why a big 2019 paid acquisition push failed (~10% predicted ROAS), a $10 gift-card referral program that was killed after a year, and in-app messages that earned 10x more than email blasts, plus streak sales, escalating discounts and message timing.

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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Trial starts up double digits; free-user retention also improved

Starting in 2018, after noticing health apps' onboardings getting longer with questions that could not be used for setup, Lose It! A/B tested adding more questions to its onboarding beyond the age/height/weight/goal needed to set a calorie budget. The answers were not necessarily used at first. They kept making onboarding longer until returns diminished. Onboarding is never touched without an A/B test. They also tracked free-user retention to make sure the free experience was not hurt. The rationale: most users have failed at weight loss before, and the longer flow gets them into a committed mindset.

Workedonboardingpaywall
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Users who opt into the calorie-cycling feature convert more; no exact numbers

Onboarding lets users set up premium features, first the 'Weekender' calorie-cycling feature ('Do you want more calories on the weekend?'). After the paywall, if the user taps X, a later screen lists the premium features they configured (e.g. intermittent fasting, Weekender) and asks whether to continue on basic without them or start the 7-day free trial. Each feature added to onboarding is A/B tested; only features with immediate day-one resonance are kept.

Workedonboardingpaywall
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Lost badly in A/B test; many premium setup steps clogged the flow

Tested adding various premium feature setup steps to onboarding, e.g. 'Set a carb goal'. Many did not raise conversion and made the flow more painful, because a carb chart is not something most people care about on day one.

Failedonboarding
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Earned little extra money and made users angry

Years ago ran a test locking all macronutrient functions in the app behind premium. Since then the team rarely tests locking features and prefers testing messaging and positioning; new features are assigned to free or premium using a framework (free = enough to lose weight via calorie counting).

Failedpaywallpricing
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Premium grew to 40+ features; carbs and device syncing drive most upgrades

Framework for new features: the free product must be enough to lose weight via calorie tracking (calories in, calories out). Macronutrient tracking, advanced diets (keto, intermittent fasting), calorie cycling go to premium, which now has 40+ features. Premium is positioned as what you need if you care about carbs; 'apps and devices' syncing is a big crowd-pleaser. Messaging and positioning are A/B tested rather than locking features.

Workedpricingpositioning-niche
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Discount messages beat feature messages in tests; no numbers

A/B tests of upgrade messaging compared feature-led copy with copy about how much money the user saves and the value for a low premium price. For a price-sensitive audience the discount messaging wins, so the team leans on it.

Workedpaywallpricing
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

~10% predicted ROAS at scale; money burned and the push was dropped

2019's big strategic initiative was to grow beyond organic users with a big paid acquisition budget targeting cold audiences. ROAS was projected with curves fitted to each cohort's first 10 days, which predict eventual LTV well for their user base. Many users came in but stayed free.

Failedpaid-socialanalytics-attribution
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Price set by testing on organic users; about half of the main rival's price

After abandoning paid, Lose It! priced premium through extensive tests on its organic user base rather than to make Facebook ads pay back. Result is a price roughly half of MyFitnessPal's sticker price.

Unknownpricing
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

50M+ users over 15 years, mostly organic

Marketing focuses on getting people into the free experience, then hands off to the growth team to monetize. Main levers are App Store and Play Store optimization plus organic and word-of-mouth channels; paid is a very small part of the mix.

Workedasoword-of-mouth
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Stories feed social, email and in-app marketing; impact not measured

Automated emails go out at several weight-loss milestones, starting at 5 pounds, asking users to tell their story through a short series of questions and optionally send photos. The stories are then used heavily in social posts, emails and in-app messages. The logic: people in weight loss only talk about it once they see success.

Unknownword-of-mouthemail
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Roughly broke even but didn't scale; exposed users had lower LTV; killed after a year

Referral program during a push for premium subscriptions: the referrer received a $10 gift card when the referred person upgraded to premium, effectively a $10 cost per premium subscription. Run on a third-party system with little internal support for experimentation. Treatment vs control compared on LTV.

Mixedreferral-program
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Turns cohorts that almost never convert into some revenue; no numbers

Research showed base users who have used the app for 30 days without converting are very unlikely to convert (single-digit %). These users get progressively steeper discounts, down from about $40 to as little as $5, framed as an exclusive reward for sticking with the program.

Workedpricingupsell-expansion
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

A/B test win; big efficiency gain on a small group

Growth and data science jointly look for leverage points that predict conversion, from spreadsheet analyses to ML models. A model flagged users on a 30-day streak; growth designed a 'streak sale' offering a very discounted premium to that cohort and A/B tested it.

Workedpricingexperimentation
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

10x more money for the same offer

Instead of an email blast, sent the same offer as a shorter in-app message. Test design: take an entire eligible user segment (whether or not they opened the app), split 50/50 between email and in-app message, and measure revenue over the whole eligible cohort. In-app messages also let marketing iterate on copy and inject sales without waiting on engineering to build contextual promos.

Workedupsell-expansionemail
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Mid-task messages caused drop-off and fewer upgrades; after-task messages did better

Experiments compared delivering in-app messages during the food-logging flow versus after logging is finished or after the user marks the day complete. Post-completion messages celebrate what the user just accomplished and offer something in return.

Workedupsell-expansionexperimentation
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

These users are half of bookings; first-time sales do really well

Users are split into new, reactivated (back after a long absence) and base. Growth spends ~80% of its time on new and reactivated users, hitting them with in-app messages carrying sales while they are still in the app, timed against the known attrition curve. Returning users get celebratory 'Welcome back' messages that acknowledge why they came back, plus first-time/new-user sales.

Workedupsell-expansionpricing
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Kept the sale visible after people closed the pop-up; no numbers

Sales in in-app messages carry a timer (e.g. 24 hours to take the sale). Because users reflexively X out pop-ups, a persistent countdown timer is shown at the top of the food log for the rest of the day, giving an easy way back to the offer.

Workedupsell-expansionpricing
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Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app

Not much money and a pain to manage; not worth it for a small team

Dabbled with in-app network ads in the late 2010s alongside premium subscriptions.

Failedad-monetization
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For a number of years company bonuses were paid only if Lose It! hit both its revenue goals and its users' weight-loss goals, keeping monetization aligned with the mission.

Unknownteam-process
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Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
Lose It!users8M users
approximate
Users by 2012, per the host's question19:48
Lose It!users50M users
approximate
Over 50 million users all-time, mostly from word of mouth and organic20:58
Lose It!count135M pounds
approximate
Total weight lost by users20:58
Lose It!conversion rateup double digits
approximate
Trial take rate (trial start rate) as onboarding was made longer14:02
Lose It!retentionimproved
approximate
Retention of free users who went through the longer onboarding19:18
Lose It!roas0.1 x
approximate
ROAS when trying to scale paid acquisition in 2019, predicted from ROAS curves fitted to the first 10 days21:47
Lose It!roas0.3–0.4 x
estimate
Guess at where the 2019 paid cohorts' observed ROAS would be today, over a five-year timeline23:04
MyFitnessPalprice2 x
approximate
MyFitnessPal premium sticker price relative to Lose It!25:20
NoompriceUSD 400/year
approximate
Noom annual price, hard paywall24:58
Lose It!cpaUSD 10per referred premium subscriber$10 gift card paid to the referrer when the referred user upgraded to premium27:54
Lose It!ltvlower for users exposed to the referral program
approximate
LTV of users in the referral program treatment vs control29:22
Lose It!team size40 people
approximate
Company size when engineering resources were tight (around the onboarding work)14:02
Lose It!count40 features
approximate
Number of premium features10:32
Lose It!share90%/day
approximate
Share of daily active users who are 'base' users (neither new nor reactivated); they bring relatively little revenue31:49
Lose It!share50%
approximate
Share of bookings from new and reactivated users37:41
Lose It!share80%
approximate
Share of growth team time spent on new and reactivated users37:41
Lose It!conversion ratesingle-digit %
approximate
Likelihood that a free user who has not converted within 30 days ever converts33:14
Lose It!priceUSD 40
illustrative
Full premium price referenced vs a $5 deep discount offered to long-time non-converting users31:49
Lose It!priceUSD 5
illustrative
Deepest discount price offered to long-time non-converting free users34:13
Lose It!revenue+10 x
approximate
Revenue per eligible user from in-app messages vs the same offer sent as an email blast (50/50 split of the eligible segment)38:37