Lose It! · B2C · calorie tracking app
Ask new users to set a carb goal during onboarding
Lost badly in A/B test; many premium setup steps clogged the flow
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What they did
Tested adding various premium feature setup steps to onboarding, e.g. 'Set a carb goal'. Many did not raise conversion and made the flow more painful, because a carb chart is not something most people care about on day one.
What happened
The carb-goal step lost quite badly; many other premium-feature additions did not increase conversions.
- Effort
- Several A/B tested onboarding additions
In their words
Sub Club by RevenueCat · Achieving Mission & Profit with Freemium — Erin Webster-Shaller and Paul Apollo, Lose It!“One thing I will say about that is we have tried adding a bunch of premium features to onboarding, and a lot of times it doesn't work, and it doesn't drive increased conversions.”
“back in the day, we're like, "Set a carb goal as part of onboarding," and it lost quite badly.”
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- Lose It!: Lock all macro-tracking features behind premium as a testEarned little extra money and made users angry
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- Lose It!: Show sale offers as in-app messages instead of sending email blasts10x more money for the same offer
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- Lose It!: Pin a 24-hour sale countdown to the top of the main screenKept the sale visible after people closed the pop-up; no numbers
- Lose It!: Try network ads inside a free app that earns from subscriptionsNot much money and a pain to manage; not worth it for a small team
- Lose It!: Pay staff bonuses only if both revenue and user weight-loss goals are met