Sub Club by RevenueCat · 2023-08-23
App Store Ethics, Dark Patterns, and Rule-Breakers — Steve P. Young, App Masters
App Masters founder Steve P. Young and host David Barnard on black-hat and grey-hat App Store tactics that competitors still use (bought keyword reviews, keyword install/boost campaigns, gaming 'helpful' review votes, delayed paywall close buttons) and on hard paywalls: Steve's purchased app went from $1K to $10K/month with no X and fell to $5K when Apple forced one. Also covers paywalls in onboarding, locked content vs hard paywall, web $1 trials, and letting data and keywords decide what to build.
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Numbers mentioned
| Who | Metric | Value | Context | When |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| App pushed to #1 by an App Masters keyword boost campaign | rank | 1 rank | App Store keyword ranking for both the one-word and two-word variants of the target keyword | 8:44 |
| App pushed to #1 by an App Masters keyword boost campaign | revenue | USD 5,000/month approximate | Mostly from organic downloads after the keyword boost stopped | 8:44 |
| benchmarkMinimum keyword search popularity worth targeting with a keyword boost campaign (with low ASO competition) | keyword popularity | 30 search score approximate | At least 30 | 8:44 |
| Steve's purchased one-feature app | revenue | USD 1,000/month approximate | Starting monthly revenue after launch with a hard paywall; climbed to $2K then $10K on organic downloads | 18:10 |
| Steve's purchased one-feature app | revenue | USD 10K/month approximate | Peak monthly revenue with the hard paywall (no close button) | 18:10 |
| Steve's purchased one-feature app | revenue | USD 5,000/month approximate | Monthly revenue after Apple forced a close button on the paywall | 19:02 |
| Steve's purchased one-feature app | conversion rate | 35% approximate | trial -> paid, average, with the hard paywall | 19:02 |
| Rootd | revenue | doubled approximate | After adding a closable paywall to onboarding | 33:45 |
| App Masters client earning six figures a month | revenue | USD 100K/month approximate | 41:29 | |
| App Masters client earning six figures a month | conversion rate | 25% approximate | trial activation (install -> trial start) | 41:29 |
| App Masters client earning six figures a month | conversion rate | 60% approximate | trial -> paid | 41:29 |
| App from Steve's icon-change video | views | +57% | Paywall views after a simple main-page icon change | 44:10 |
| Launch Center Pro | revenue | USD 20K/month approximate | Month of the home screen customization release | 36:30 |
| Weather Up | cost | USD 0.1–1per free trial estimate | Estimated server/data cost of each 7-day free trial that does not convert, depending on usage | 21:18 |
| Web-funnel app with a $1 trial | price | USD 1per trial | Chosen option for a 7-day trial; options were the full claimed trial cost ($8.75), $2 or $1 | 26:31 |
| Web-funnel app with a $1 trial | price | USD 70 approximate | Subscription charged immediately to the stored card after a later button tap | 26:31 |
| aggregateTop wallpaper apps making millions of dollars with dark patterns | price | USD 15/week approximate | Weekly subscription price used by wallpaper apps | 2:24 |
| aggregateSome apps in RevenueCat data, including some with 3-day trials | conversion rate | 5% approximate | free trial -> paid; shows few people forget to cancel | 42:42 |
| benchmarkHard-paywall trial-to-paid rate as a product-market-fit signal: single digits means not PMF, 10-20% means people find value | conversion rate | 10–20% approximate | trial -> paid | 42:42 |
| benchmarkMonthly revenue below which indie developers should try a hard paywall | revenue | USD 1,000/month illustrative | 41:29 | |
| App Masters | team size | 11 people | 44:53 |