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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-25

Phoenix Do - Copy This Strategy, It'll Blow Up Your App

Phoenix Do explains how Copia, a manifesting app built from a viral ChatGPT 'day in your dream life' trend, grew mostly on organic TikTok/Instagram: a deadline-hook affirmation format with a phone-screen demo (10M-view video), studying big info-product creators for formats, paying 50K-250K-follower creators at ~$1 CPM, 40 UGC creators via SideShift, a 'crash out' button slideshow (12-13M views), an Astronomer-CEO meme account, and an onboarding rebuild that took paywall reach from ~50% to 85-90%.

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Copia · B2C · manifesting and affirmations app

Became the app's emotional hook behind trial starts; ~100K downloads overall

Spotted a TikTok trend where women asked ChatGPT to write 'a day in your dream life' and posted crying reactions (10-20M-view videos, comments asking for the prompt). Built the app around it: after install users enter their goals, get their own 'day in your dream life' story as the emotional hook, then see daily affirmations tied to that story.

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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-25

Copia · B2C · manifesting and affirmations app

Went viral but converted poorly; people don't read and already use ChatGPT

Early content A/B tests featured the 'day in your dream life' prompt output, the same thing viewers had seen in the ChatGPT trend.

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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-25

Copia · B2C · manifesting and affirmations app

10M views on one Instagram video; became their repeatable main format

Creator (Chloe) on camera: 'If you're seeing this before [date], repeat these affirmations for the next seven days from Copia and watch your dream life unfold.' A hard deadline in the hook plus a promised transformation; then she reads affirmations straight from the app while a phone-screen demo is overlaid. The date is swapped each time, so it stays timely and repeatable. Copied from creator Sarah Purl, who sold ~100K books with the same 'repeat these affirmations for seven days' content. Keep the demo subtle enough that it doesn't feel like a paid ad, and build curiosity in comments.

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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-25

Copia · B2C · manifesting and affirmations app

6.6M views and downloads, but an estimated 20-30% fewer than with a demo

A video where Chloe only said 'These are the affirmations from Copia' without showing the app; viewers asked 'What's Copia?' in comments and some clicked the link in the Copia account bio.

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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-25

Copia · B2C · manifesting and affirmations app

Found the creator whose format they copied; turned her book idea into an app

After the first viral video, scrolled (while warming up new accounts) for the biggest creators in self-help, wellness, mindset and motivation, aiming at 500K+ to ~1M followers, and checked what products they sell, their link in bio and how they monetize. Found Sarah Purl, who repeated an affirmations format for 2.5 years (1M Instagram, 2.5M TikTok followers) and sold ~100K books; reasoned a subscription app could deliver the same value as the book.

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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-25

Copia · B2C · manifesting and affirmations app

Filled the funnel cheaply to learn metrics; no results given

While the product is unproven (usually the first 2-3 months), skip million-follower creators who protect their brand. Pay many creators with 50K-250K TikTok followers who don't get brand deals and often still have a job, pitching a mutually beneficial partnership. Target roughly a $1 CPM and raise it as the funnel proves out; the goal is traffic to learn and optimize funnel metrics.

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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-25

Copia · B2C · manifesting and affirmations app

Users reaching the paywall rose from ~50-60% to 85-90%; conversion doubled

Original onboarding: login, name, type your goals, then the dream-life story; many dropped at typing goals because trust wasn't built. Expanded it with social proof ('proven methods, meaningful results', inspirations, people who have done it), an onboarding video and a few progressive button questions to personalize before any typing. Screens use very few words (TikTok-caption style) because users won't read paragraphs; buttons give a small dopamine hit, like Duolingo.

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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-25

Copia · B2C · manifesting and affirmations app

Scaled the winning format; hook results varied; no totals given

Audience data showed mostly women 18-25, so hired matching creators fast through the SideShift UGC marketplace (10-20 good ones), plus college ambassadors, reaching 40 creators at once. Non-professional creators get strict guidelines: do a slideshow, the same hook-and-demo, the same product. Only the first 10 seconds (the hook) vary, which A/B tests hooks across creators; the demo stays the same.

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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-25

Copia · B2C · manifesting and affirmations app

12-13M views and 10-15K downloads from one two-slide TikTok

Noticed 'crashing out' was a viral emotion (Chloe's rant video, Justin Bieber's Nobu Malibu outburst turned into an album billboard). Added a big red 'crash out now' button that launches a breathing exercise, then posted a funny two-slide TikTok slideshow showing it.

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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-25

Copia · B2C · manifesting and affirmations app

50M views in a week; the 5M-view plug drove only a couple thousand downloads

When the Coldplay kiss-cam clip of the Astronomer CEO went viral, created an account posing as his daughter. The account's second video included a Copia product placement ('get the bag, your dad's getting divorced').

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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-25

Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
Copiadownloads100K downloads
approximate
Mostly from organic TikTok1:29
CopiamrrUSD 25K
approximate
Stated only in the host intro and episode description0:27
aggregateTikTok videos of women posting reactions to the ChatGPT 'day in your dream life' promptviews10M–20M viewsper video
approximate
2:49
Copiaviews10M viewsper video
approximate
Chloe's deadline-hook affirmation video with phone-screen demo, Instagram5:10
Copiaviews6.6M viewsper videoAffirmation video that only name-dropped Copia, without the demo6:17
Copiadownloads+-20–-30%
estimate
Guest's estimate of downloads lost on the 6.6M-view video by skipping the demo6:17
personSarah Purl, manifesting creator who sells courses and booksfollowers1M followers
approximate
Instagram; also 2.5M on TikTok, built over ~2.5 years of repeating the affirmation format7:44
personSarah Purl, manifesting creator who sells courses and booksfollowers2.5M followers
approximate
TikTok7:44
personSarah Purl, manifesting creator who sells courses and bookscount100K copies
approximate
Copies of her affirmations book sold by repeating 'Repeat these affirmations for the next seven days' content7:44
benchmarkFollower count of creators to study for monetizable niches and formatsfollowers500K–1M followers
approximate
9:16
Copiafollowers50K–250K followersper creator
approximate
TikTok follower range of the paid creators they targeted10:07
benchmarkTarget CPM when paying small creators for an early-stage appcpmUSD 1
goal
10:07
Copiaconversion rate50–55%
approximate
Install -> paywall view, original 4-screen onboarding11:36
Copiaconversion rate15–20%
approximate
Paywall -> trial start; guest calls it a decent standard11:36
Copiaconversion rate85–90%
approximate
Install -> paywall after expanding onboarding (up from 50-60%); guest says it doubled conversion12:12
Copiacount10–20 creators
approximate
Good UGC creators hired through the SideShift marketplace18:12
Copiacount40 creators
approximate
Peak number of UGC creators and college ambassadors posting at once20:17
Copiaviews12M viewsper video
approximate
Two-slide TikTok slideshow about the 'crash out' button; host reads 13M18:12
Copiadownloads10K–15K downloadsper video
approximate
From the crash-out slideshow (read by host alongside 13M views)20:00
Copiafollowers200K followers
approximate
Meme account posing as the Astronomer CEO's daughter23:06
Copiaviews50M views/week
estimate
Meme account total views in about a week23:06
Copiaviews5M viewsper video
approximate
Meme account's Copia product-placement video23:06
Copiadownloadsa couple thousand
estimate
From the 5M-view meme-account product placement23:06
benchmarkROAS to reach on one paid channel before expanding to othersroas2–3 x
goal
22:15