B2C · manifesting and affirmations app
How Copia grows
10 tactics and 17 figures from 1 interview.
Copia is an affirmations app built around a viral ChatGPT trend in which women asked for a story of a day in their dream life. It grew through short videos, first finding one repeatable format with a hard-deadline hook and an in-app demo, then scaling it through dozens of UGC creators, and reached about 100K downloads.
- Copia turned the ChatGPT dream-life trend into its onboarding hook, but videos showing the AI story itself went viral while converting poorly to installs.Copia (1)Copia (2)
- A hook asking viewers to repeat Copia's affirmations for seven days before a set date, followed by a demo, hit about 10M Instagram views and became the main format, copied from an author who sold about 100K books.Copia (1)Copia (2)
- Formats without a clear demo drew views but fewer downloads: a name-drop video got 6.6M views, and a meme-account plug got 5M views but only a couple thousand downloads.Copia (1)Copia (2)
- A red crash-out button launching a breathing exercise, shown in a two-slide slideshow, got 12-13M views and 10-15K downloads; Copia then had 40 UGC creators post one format, varying only the first ten seconds.Copia (1)Copia (2)
- Adding social proof, a short video and tap-to-answer questions to onboarding raised users reaching the paywall from about 50-60% to 85-90%, which the founder said doubled conversion.Copia
Summary written 2026-09-26 from the tactics below. Figures are as founders stated them.
About Copia
- What it is
- Manifesting app: users enter their goals, get an AI-written 'day in your dream life' story, then daily affirmations; later added a 'crash out' button with breathing exercises
- Who it's for
- Mostly women aged about 18-25
- Business model
- Subscription with free trial
- Launched
- late 2024 / early 2025
- Team
- Phoenix Do and Chloe (content creator/partner), plus UGC creators and college ambassadors
- Outcome
- ~100K downloads; $25K MRR per host intro
As described in the interviews, not independently verified.
Copia's 10 tactics
Copia by the numbers
| Metric | Value | Context | Said in |
|---|---|---|---|
| downloads | 100K downloads approximate | Mostly from organic TikTok | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-251:29 |
| mrr | USD 25K approximate | Stated only in the host intro and episode description | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-250:27 |
| views | 10M viewsper video approximate | Chloe's deadline-hook affirmation video with phone-screen demo, Instagram | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-255:10 |
| views | 6.6M viewsper video | Affirmation video that only name-dropped Copia, without the demo | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-256:17 |
| downloads | +-20–-30% estimate | Guest's estimate of downloads lost on the 6.6M-view video by skipping the demo | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-256:17 |
| followers | 50K–250K followersper creator approximate | TikTok follower range of the paid creators they targeted | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-2510:07 |
| conversion rate | 50–55% approximate | Install -> paywall view, original 4-screen onboarding | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-2511:36 |
| conversion rate | 15–20% approximate | Paywall -> trial start; guest calls it a decent standard | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-2511:36 |
| conversion rate | 85–90% approximate | Install -> paywall after expanding onboarding (up from 50-60%); guest says it doubled conversion | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-2512:12 |
| count | 10–20 creators approximate | Good UGC creators hired through the SideShift marketplace | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-2518:12 |
| count | 40 creators approximate | Peak number of UGC creators and college ambassadors posting at once | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-2520:17 |
| views | 12M viewsper video approximate | Two-slide TikTok slideshow about the 'crash out' button; host reads 13M | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-2518:12 |
| downloads | 10K–15K downloadsper video approximate | From the crash-out slideshow (read by host alongside 13M views) | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-2520:00 |
| followers | 200K followers approximate | Meme account posing as the Astronomer CEO's daughter | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-2523:06 |
| views | 50M views/week estimate | Meme account total views in about a week | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-2523:06 |
| views | 5M viewsper video approximate | Meme account's Copia product-placement video | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-2523:06 |
| downloads | a couple thousand estimate | From the 5M-view meme-account product placement | The Superwall Podcast 2025-11-2523:06 |
Topics
TikTok marketing for apps8Short-form video marketing (TikTok, Reels, Shorts)6Instagram marketing for apps4TikTok slideshow marketing2Picking a niche and positioning an app2UGC creator programs for apps2How to pay UGC creators and influencers1App virality and word of mouth1Validating an app idea before building1Ad creative and creative testing1
Interviews
- Phoenix Do - Copy This Strategy, It'll Blow Up Your App · The Superwall Podcast · 2025-11-25