App Masters · 2026-06-27
ASO-First Vibe Coding - Stop Building Apps Nobody Wants
Steve P. Young's solo live stream on 'ASO first': find keywords people already search (popularity ~30, low difficulty), check the results by hand, then build a simple app. Evidence: his JPEG to PDF converter (#1 for two keywords, ~$500/month), another own app ($2-3K/month), an acquired health and fitness app (~$490K/year organic), client apps ($20K/month; $6M/year organic; $5M via Meta), plus his Apple Ads max-conversion and single-keyword ad group setups. Ends with audits of RankPic and an anxiety app.
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Numbers mentioned
| Who | Metric | Value | Context | When |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| marketSubscription app launches per month, all app stores (Appfigures data in RevenueCat State of Subscription Apps) | growth rate | +7 x approximate | Monthly subscription app launches up 7x since January 2022; almost all iOS, Android grew about half as fast | 0:00 |
| marketSubscription app revenue by launch cohort (RevenueCat State of Subscription Apps) | share | 3% | Share of the app economy earned by apps launched in 2025 or later ('vibe coding' era) | 0:00 |
| marketSubscription app revenue by launch cohort (RevenueCat State of Subscription Apps) | share | 69% | Share of all subscription revenue earned by apps launched before 2020 | 0:00 |
| marketSubscription app revenue by launch cohort (RevenueCat State of Subscription Apps) | share | 5% approximate | Share of revenue earned by apps launched in 2024 | 7:32 |
| marketAll subscription apps | share | 17% | Share of apps that make $1,000 a month | 7:32 |
| marketPhoto & video category, revenue per install (RevenueCat report) | arpu | USD 1.52per install approximate | Revenue per install; transcript says '152', read as $1.52 | 7:32 |
| marketMedia & entertainment category, revenue per install (RevenueCat report) | arpu | USD 0.65per install approximate | Revenue per install; among the lowest categories | 7:32 |
| marketShopping category, revenue per install (RevenueCat report) | arpu | USD 0.58per install approximate | Revenue per install; lowest category shown | 7:32 |
| benchmarkMinimum revenue per install for paid marketing to work (Steve's rule) | arpu | USD 3per install approximate | Below ~$3 revenue per install you probably have no paid channel; rely on organic | 7:32 |
| benchmarkApps launched vs apps that drive revenue (Steve's rule) | count | 30 apps illustrative | Publish ~30 apps to find the 3-5 that drive revenue | 7:32 |
| benchmarkAcquisition channels needed to reach $5M ARR (Steve's observation) | count | 1–2 channels approximate | Main ones: ASO, Apple Ads, Meta | 7:32 |
| benchmarkTarget App Store keyword popularity for an ASO-first app (Steve's rule) | keyword popularity | 30 score approximate | Target keywords with a search score of ~30 and up, where low-difficulty terms are; aim for difficulty under 40 | 12:57 |
| benchmarkMaximum keyword difficulty Steve looks for | keyword difficulty | 40 score approximate | Look for difficulty under 40, then confirm by checking the actual search results | 23:35 |
| benchmarkWhen to start building new features (Steve's opinion) | revenue | USD 5,000/month estimate | Build new features only once the app reaches '5K and up' (unit not stated; his milestones are monthly revenue). He considered 10K. | 22:24 |
| benchmarkApple's recommended minimum daily budget for an Apple Ads max-conversion campaign | ad spend | USD 30/day | Apple recommends ~$30/day for a $1 target CPI ($60/day for $2); optional | 23:35 |
| marketUS App Store keyword 'sleep apnea' (ASOMobile) | keyword popularity | 32 score | Found via Rootd's indexed keywords; the fifth-ranked app is weak, so a good keyword for a sleep/snore app | 47:46 |
| App recently acquired by App Masters (~$35K/month) | revenue | USD 1M approximate | Lifetime revenue since 2024 launch ('over $1 million') | 7:32 |
| App recently acquired by App Masters (~$35K/month) | revenue | USD 35K/month approximate | April revenue | 7:32 |
| App recently acquired by App Masters (~$35K/month) | revenue | USD 490K/year approximate | Last year's revenue from organic sources (App Store Connect sales by source type) | 7:32 |
| App recently acquired by App Masters (~$35K/month) | ad spend | USD 6,000–7,000/month approximate | Apple Ads spend on the single-keyword-ad-group exact match campaign last month | 23:35 |
| Host's JPEG to PDF converter app | rank | 1 rank | US App Store rank for 'JPEG to PDF Converter' and 'JPEG to PDF Converter Free' | 12:57 |
| Host's JPEG to PDF converter app | rank | 2 rank | US App Store rank for 'JPEG to PDF' | 22:24 |
| Host's JPEG to PDF converter app | revenue | USD 500/month approximate | Utility app; downloads decent but lower than hoped | 12:57 |
| Host's JPEG to PDF converter app | keyword popularity | 48 score | Traffic score for 'JPEG to PDF Converter' per MobileAction; App Radar says 10 for the same term | 12:57 |
| Host's JPEG to PDF converter app | keyword difficulty | 46–49 score | Difficulty of the two keywords it ranks #1 for | 12:57 |
| Host's other ASO-first app (~$2-3K/month) | revenue | USD 2,000–3,000/month approximate | All organic; later given as ~$2,300 | 12:57 |
| App Masters client older ASO-only app ($6M last year) | revenue | USD 6M/year approximate | Last year's revenue, almost all organic (long-running app with recurring revenue) | 7:32 |
| App Masters client Meta-driven app launched in 2025 | revenue | USD 5M approximate | Revenue since 2025 launch, mainly from Meta ads | 7:32 |
| App Masters client ASO-first app (~$20K/month) | revenue | USD 20K/month approximate | Current monthly revenue with paid ads added; one of the client's biggest apps | 12:57 |
| App Masters client ASO-first app (~$20K/month) | revenue | USD 15K–17K/month approximate | Monthly revenue reached with organic (ASO) alone, before paid | 12:57 |
| Multi-app developer Steve tracks in Sensor Tower | revenue | USD 200K/month estimate | Top app's revenue per Sensor Tower; other apps at $100K, $90K, $50K; many make nothing | 12:57 |
| Multi-app developer Steve tracks in Sensor Tower | revenue | USD 100K/month estimate | App launched September 2025 (Sensor Tower estimate); another launched December 2025 makes ~$90K | 12:57 |
| App Masters Apple Ads client ($55-85K/month) | ad spend | USD 55K–85K/month approximate | Apple Ads spend managed by App Masters | 23:35 |
| App Masters Apple Ads client (~$12K/month) | ad spend | USD 12K/month approximate | Apple Ads spend; 'doing pretty well' | 23:35 |
| App Masters Apple Ads client scaled up from ~$6.6K/month | ad spend | USD 600/month approximate | Spend on the max-conversion campaign (alongside ~$6K on the Basic+ campaign), both with good ROAS; since scaled up | 23:35 |
| App Masters Apple Ads client scaled up from ~$6.6K/month | ad spend | USD 6,000/month approximate | Spend on the Basic+ Apple Ads campaign, with good ROAS | 23:35 |
| App Masters Apple Ads client spending $24K on Basic+ | ad spend | USD 24K/month approximate | Spend on the Basic+ Apple Ads campaign (plus a max-conversion campaign); became unprofitable when scaled | 23:35 |
| Rootd | rank | 2 rank | App Store rank for 'anxiety relief', reached after starting with the 'panic attack' keyword | 47:46 |
| Rootd | keyword popularity | 36 score | Search score of 'anxiety', a keyword Rootd ranks #1 for (ASOMobile) | 47:46 |
| Rootd | price | USD 60–70 approximate | Plan prices seen on the App Store listing | 47:46 |
| Maddy's anxiety and panic attack app | price | USD 40 approximate | Plan price; host thinks it is too cheap for a painkiller problem | 47:46 |
| Maddy's anxiety and panic attack app | count | 9 ratings | App Store ratings at time of audit | 47:46 |
| Cal AI | count | 330K ratings | App Store ratings, seen when checking the 'calorie tracker' search results | 23:35 |
| MyFitnessPal | count | 2.3M ratings | App Store ratings, seen in the 'calorie tracker' search results | 23:35 |