Ladder · strength training app
Sign a celebrity like Hilary Duff for brand ads
Big influx almost at once, secondhand; ROI hard to measure
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What they did
Ladder signed actress/singer Hilary Duff for brand ads.
What happened
Per Ladder's CEO on a panel (relayed by David), a pretty big influx almost immediately; ROI hard to measure.
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In their words
Sub Club by RevenueCat · Make Ugly Ads to Grow Your App – Yuliya Lennox (Solid Starts)“they took a huge bet signing Hillary Duff as a influencer for the app, and it has already paid off. And he shared in the panel that almost immediately they saw a pretty big influx.”
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