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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-12-30

Matt Gittleson - Our app makes $750k/mo thanks to this UGC strategy

Matt Gittleson founded Citesure, a fake-citation checker whose first founder-filmed TikTok got 245K views. Jenni AI acqui-hired him after a casual Instagram DM. He now runs Jenni's UGC program: 0 to 150 creators and 75M views at under $2 CPM in about 3 months. He picks creators from unrelated niches for 'camera charisma' (emotive, good first frame, a natural talker), coaches them over time, and writes polarizing 'engagement bait' overlays; one got 30M views on X. Also: recruiting DMs, building 'viral sense' by scrolling, and building product backwards from TikTok formats.

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Jenni AI · B2C · AI essay writing assistant

150 creators and 75M views at under $2 per 1,000 views in 3 months

Almost ignore stats (no Modash filtering). Scroll a creator's TikToks in any niche (beauty, lifestyle, pets) and ask: how much do I want to watch and rewatch this, and why? If you can't say why, that's a good sign. Checklist: (1) emotive, not monotone, especially with the eyes; (2) pause on the first second: is the frame aesthetic (bright light, good positioning, interesting background, well-proportioned on-screen text)? This proxies for natural 'viral sense'; (3) extroverted 'yapper' who can tell a story. Hidden gems often have one exceptional skill; the rest can be taught. College students are a good pool. These creators come cheaper than influencers. Creators cross-post, but most results come from TikTok.

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Jenni AI · B2C · AI essay writing assistant

Best creator needed 25 videos to pass 10K views, then earned $5K+ in a month

Build rapport and a real relationship with each creator and commit to improving their content rather than being transactional. Don't expect a million views in week one. Keep the creator's natural charisma and coach the learnable parts (lighting, framing, text size, scripts). Pay includes performance bonuses. Treat creators as team members, not disposable numbers, because competition for good creators is fierce.

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Jenni AI · B2C · AI essay writing assistant

80 creators in month one, 150 in three; replies low but most calls closed

No shortcut on sourcing: hours of scrolling to find hidden gems (DMs can be sent by a tool or VA, but not the picking). Outreach DMs to college-age creators are written all in lowercase, casual and personable, with as much specific social proof as possible (Jenni has 5-6M users, results of existing creators, links to creator accounts). Avoid vague, long pitches. Set an aggressive target (80 creators in the first month). Expect lower reply rates than influencer outreach: these creators rarely check DMs and are wary of scammy jewelry-brand offers. Then move to a call, where most close.

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Jenni AI · B2C · AI essay writing assistant

30M organic views on X after a screenshot; top quote tweet got 15M

Format: a 5-second clip of the creator making a surprised face, with a long text overlay that takes ~15 seconds to read, so viewers watch it about three times. Matt writes the overlay word for word. Example: 'Just seen a girl in the library writing an essay, no notes, no open tabs, no ChatGPT, no Jenni AI, no textbooks, no music, just her and her own thoughts against the world, like a psychopath.' The aim is 'engagement bait', not pure rage bait: the claim should split opinion so some viewers attack it and others defend it (here, 'no tabs and no music is what makes this crazy'). The product name sits inside the text. Coming up with the angle takes emotional intelligence about what people are talking about now, adapted to the niche.

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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-12-30

Jenni AI · B2C · AI essay writing assistant

1.5M views; host guesses more sign-ups than the 30M-view video, no numbers

After the library video plugged Jenni too weakly, later scripts made the app the answer to the story. Example overlay: 'Our professor just said, if I even think ChatGPT wrote your essay, you get a zero... Chat, I am begging you to please use a humanizer for the grammar and Jenni for the fake citations. Do not risk your whole degree for ChatGPT. It doesn't love you back like that.' Rule: a viral study TikTok that doesn't mention Jenni is useless; adjust each video depending on whether it leaned too far toward virality or toward the plug.

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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-12-30

Citesure · B2C · fake citation checker for students

First-ever TikTok got 245K views

No creators: the founder made all the content himself, sometimes with clips of friends and family. His first real TikTok (after five meme posts) was him talking into his phone, adapting an existing format: 'Made a website called I have an essay due at midnight and ChatGPT won't stop giving me fake citations .com...' He named the pain, explained the tool (upload ChatGPT citations, see which are fake, get real replacements, helps with AI detectors like Turnitin) and said 'I'll put a shorter link in the comments.' Advice: early on, don't invent formats; imitate and adapt. Filming yourself beats carousels, and it teaches you what to tell creators later.

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Citesure · B2C · fake citation checker for students

Founder credits it for spotting formats he adapted; no numbers

Prescribed 'doom scrolling' to build viral sense (judging whether a video will go viral): half an hour a day on content in your niche (for him, studying) and half an hour on content outside it, then adapt what works elsewhere. Don't rely only on outlier-finder tools, because you also need to see what fails. Judge principles, not just view counts, since outcomes are noisy.

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Jenni AI · B2C · AI essay writing assistant

Guest says variations beat exact copies; no numbers

Understand the principle behind a winning video, then ask 'what's the one thing I would change to make it better?' and make many such variations. Views vary a lot by luck (near-identical videos differed 2,000x), so the goal is more chances at luck, not guessing the cause of one hit. At Jenni's scale they test patterns such as eye expressiveness across many videos.

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A copycat brand · Jenni competitor

Didn't go viral

Another brand had its creators copy Jenni creators' videos as closely as possible, buying near-identical outfits and filming in front of near-identical backgrounds.

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An experiment over the next few months: Matt spotted a strong format in a completely different niche that hasn't been done in study, came up with a product or feature that would fit it, asked engineering if it could be built, and it is being built. Product is designed from the format outward.

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Citesure · B2C · fake citation checker for students

CEO call the next day; acqui-hire closed 4-5 months later

Citesure solved a narrow slice (fake citations) of the problem Jenni AI solves, so Jenni understood it instantly. Jenni's account DMed the Citesure Instagram (which showed clips of a friend) to recruit the 'creator'; Matt replied with an eyes emoji offering 'one better' if they wanted an acquisition, saying Jenni had been an inspiration. The CEO offered a call right away; they spoke the next day and he made a first offer on that call. Closing took 4-5 months of lawyers and UK tax work. Advice: pick the acquirer on the founder and culture you'd learn from, not the product.

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Jenni AI · B2C · AI essay writing assistant

The hired founder built a 150-creator, 75M-view program in 3 months

Rather than hiring a pure creative, acqui-hire a young founder who had to grow their own app with scrappy content. They understand the whole funnel through to revenue and are used to sink-or-swim pressure, so they write for conversion, not just views.

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Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
Jenni AImrrUSD 775K/month
approximate
The description also says past $775K MRR2:44
Jenni AIrevenueUSD 750K/month
approximate
Title figure; the body says $775K MRR2:44
Jenni AIusers5M–6M users
approximate
Used as social proof in creator outreach DMs16:05
Jenni AIviews75M views
approximate
UGC program views in ~3 months since August 20254:57
Jenni AIcpmUSD 2
approximate
Blended cost per 1,000 views across the UGC program (upper bound)4:57
Jenni AIcount150 creators
approximate
Creators brought into the UGC program in ~3 months, in different forms4:57
Jenni AIcount80 creators/monthCreators signed in the first month; this was also the target, hit right at the deadline13:30
benchmarkTypical mass creator outreach on Instagram/TikTok, per the hostconversion rate10–20%
estimate
DM -> response. Host adds 20-50% of responders then negotiate or get on a call. Matt says Jenni's rates are lower because non-influencers rarely check DMs and are skeptical.14:45
Jenni AIconversion ratelower than the 10-20% typical response rate; closing rate on calls quite high
estimate
DM -> response and response -> call rates for creator outreach15:38
personJenni AI's best creator last month; beauty-niche creator with no prior UGC experiencecount25 videos
approximate
Videos posted before one got above 10K views12:03
personJenni AI's best creator last month; beauty-niche creator with no prior UGC experiencecreator payUSD 5,000/month
estimate
Over $5K in one month, largely from performance bonuses12:03
Citesureviews245.6K viewsper videoFounder's first-ever TikTok (after five meme posts), long-URL talking-to-phone format19:24
Jenni AIviews30M views
approximate
Organic views on X after someone screenshotted creator Ruby's 5-second 'girl in the library' TikTok28:35
Jenni AIviews15M views
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The quote tweet defending the creator in the X debate32:01
Jenni AIviews1.5M viewsper video
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Creator Ruby's 'professor said zero' video with a direct Jenni AI call to action36:03
Jenni AIviews+2,000 x
approximate
View ratio between two near-identical videos (same script, same creator) posted 3 days apart24:33
Citesuretime to milestone4–5 months
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From the first Instagram DM (February) to the acquisition closing53:17