The Superwall Podcast · 2026-03-03
Rafael Kramer - this 14 yr old makes $100k/mo PROFIT building apps with ai (here's how)
Joseph Choi interviews Rafael Kramer, who built meme mobile games from age 13 and later sold an influencer game studio and two consumer apps. Extracted: DaGame (DaBaby car meme game built overnight in Buildbox, TikTok devlogs, AdMob ads; ~2M downloads and $100K+ in a month), 50/50 influencer game partnerships (Skibidi Toilet game: one Short, 2-3M downloads), Instagram-first influencer outreach, Debloat AI (idea from TikTok comments, CPM-paid faceless slideshow accounts, TikTok ads at cents per install, face scan before the paywall), and Amanda AI's ad restrictions.
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Numbers mentioned
| Who | Metric | Value | Context | When |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| DaGame | downloads | 2M installs/month approximate | First month | 6:18 |
| DaGame | downloads | 1.5M–2M installs/month estimate | Guest's later, revised estimate for the first month | 12:28 |
| DaGame | revenue | USD 100K/month approximate | More than $100K in one month, at age 14; all from ads | 6:18 |
| DaGame | profit | USD 100K/month approximate | Title/description and host teaser call it profit ('six figures in profit in a single month'); body only says 'made' | 0:00 |
| DaGame | downloads | 300K installs/day approximate | Day one downloads | 7:01 |
| DaGame | downloads | 300K–400K installs estimate | Downloads attributed to the first couple of TikTok videos; the rest came from sharing and chart visibility | 12:39 |
| DaGame | views | 4M viewsper video approximate | The TikTok that kickstarted the game | 6:18 |
| DaGame | views | 100K–1M viewsper video approximate | Nine devlog TikToks about the game (host reading the profile) | 12:06 |
| DaGame | rank | 2 App Store rank estimate | Overall App Store chart; possibly #1 in Games or Racing | 7:01 |
| personRafael Kramer's TikTok personal brand (2020-2021) | followers | 200K followers approximate | 6:18 | |
| DaGame | arpu | USD 0.1per user approximate | Average ad revenue per user on his poorly monetized, low-retention meme games | 9:51 |
| benchmarkAd-monetized mobile games today | arpu | USD 0.8–1per user approximate | 9:51 | |
| personRafael Kramer's first meme game, age 13 | revenue | USD 30 approximate | First ad earnings, from about 5,000 downloads | 9:51 |
| Rafael's influencer mobile game company | team size | 10 employees approximate | At peak | 3:38 |
| Rafael's influencer mobile game company | exit price | at least six figures estimate | Guest's figure is missing from the transcript; host says at least six figures | 5:46 |
| Rafael's influencer mobile game company | activity volume | 50–100 emails/day approximate | Cold emails to influencers by relationship managers; Instagram DMs worked better | 5:12 |
| Rafael's influencer mobile game company | share | 50% | Revenue/ownership split with each influencer partner | 33:29 |
| Skibidi Toilet mobile game | downloads | 2M–3M installs estimate | About two weeks, across iOS and Android | 4:10 |
| Skibidi Toilet mobile game | views | 50M viewsper video approximate | The creator's single YouTube Shorts promotion of the game | 4:33 |
| personDaFuq!?Boom!, creator of Skibidi Toilet, when approached | followers | 5M subscribers approximate | YouTube subscribers when Rafael reached out; more than 50M now | 4:33 |
| personInfluencer partner whose game flopped | followers | 5M followers approximate | Got ~2M views per video, but the game made with him flopped | 33:29 |
| personRafael Kramer's influencer outreach today | conversion rate | 2 responses | DM'd three influencers one night, woke up to two responses | 32:44 |
| personRafael Kramer across his games and apps | count | 50 apps approximate | Host intro: 50+ apps built, 100M social views, three exits; guest says the meme/influencer game playbook ran on almost 50 apps | 3:22 |
| personRafael Kramer across his games and apps | views | 100M views approximate | Total social media views (host intro) | 3:22 |
| Debloat AI | downloads | 40K installs approximate | Before the sale; took little effort | 15:10 |
| Debloat AI | cpi | a couple cents approximate | TikTok ads at launch; lasted a couple of days before evening out as spend rose | 15:10 |
| Debloat AI | margin | 30% estimate | Profit relative to ad spend for the few weeks after the cents-per-install period | 16:02 |
| Debloat AI | count | 8 accounts estimate | Faceless UGC slideshow accounts run by hired people paid on CPM | 18:15 |
| aggregateDebloat app copycats | revenue | USD 20K–30K/month estimate | Some copycats launched after Debloat AI's sale | 16:02 |
| benchmarkHigh-view influencers who flop for app promotion | creator pay | USD 5,000per post illustrative | Influencers with good views but no active community can charge this and drive almost no downloads | 36:31 |
| aggregateFriends' consumer apps with a few well-matched influencers on retainer | roas | 3 x approximate | Secondhand: influencers whose audience fits the app | 38:20 |