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The Superwall Podcast · 2026-03-16

Dris Elamri - Meet The 18y/o Who Solved UGC Marketing (100M Views in 2 Weeks)

18-year-old Dris Elamri helped scale Cluely's UGC program (0 to 100M views in its first weeks, sub-$1 CPM, under 20 consistent creators). After leaving, his company Instinct signed $1.2M ARR in contracts in its first week, including Decart (100M views in two weeks at sub-$0.30 CPM). It then built Methods, an app that pays anyone to post UGC. Growth came from reframing Methods as 'the new way to make money online' and paying $40 for a creator's first video. Also: his dropshipping and Minecraft Shorts backstory, and why he adapts proven formats instead of inventing new ones.

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Cluely · B2C · AI assistant app

0 to 100M views in the first few weeks at under $1 CPM

Dris and Ben started by finding viral formats and sourcing creators. A 'Snapchat format' worked almost immediately and was sent to other creators to see what worked. Rather than sticking with one format, they killed it and expanded to other formats. Fewer than 20 creators posted consistently. Another team member later took over scaling.

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Decart · B2C · AI lab with a photo and video app

100M views in two weeks under $0.30 CPM; top 30 in the App Store

Decart, an AI lab with 60 engineers and only 2 marketers, was pushing a new consumer AI photo/video app. Instinct pitched it UGC and ran the program: creator sourcing and formats. No other execution detail given.

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Methods · app that pays people to post videos

Signups took off after the switch; users now doubling every two weeks

Methods first launched as 'the UGC marketplace app' and few people joined: 'what is UGC?'. It was reframed as the new way to make money online. Every gig or side hustle (dropshipping, crypto, UGC) is presented as a 'method', and the pitch is that anyone can make money. It targets people who want side income, not existing creators.

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Instinct · B2B · UGC marketing company for apps

$1.2M in yearly contracts signed in the first week

After leaving Cluely, with no product, he went on sales calls with companies and promised outcomes: 'We're going to get you a lot of views, we're going to get you users, and we're going to make you money.' He avoided 'UGC program', 'influencer marketing' or 'run your socials', which sound lame and confuse less tapped-in buyers. Companies with traction are targeted ('we work with winners'). His Cluely track record helped.

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Methods · app that pays people to post videos

50K+ creators joined and $500K+ paid out; first-timers make more videos

The marketplace cold start was solved by signing companies first, then recruiting creators with a flat offer (initially '$30 to make a video'). Now every new creator goes through an onboarding that pays $40 for their first post, regardless of experience. The immediate reward removes the fear of the first flop ('It's this easy to make money?'), like casino apps front-loading rewards. The rest of the process is gamified.

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Methods · app that pays people to post videos

Founder says long-time creators are now the top earners; early quitting is still a problem

Instead of recruiting experienced creators, Methods trains anyone with a phone. It gives exact scripts and example videos, a guide to warming up a new account and posting trial videos, and tips on lighting and filming good UGC. Each post gets personalised AI feedback: why it might or might not go viral, how to hold the phone, lighting, captions. Creators are encouraged to keep posting, because many quit if their second video gets ~100 views.

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Methods · app that pays people to post videos

Founder calls it an 'infinite user' loop; no separate numbers

Methods runs its own UGC program on Methods. People see a Methods video on TikTok or Instagram, join, and make more Methods videos, then join other companies' programs. That supply of creators is sold to companies as sourcing for their UGC programs.

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Instinct · B2B · UGC marketing company for apps

Source of many of their best formats, per the founder; no numbers

Keep a constant flow of Reels/TikToks from other companies (same or unrelated niches) and standalone creators that could suit a product. Adapt each by swapping in your product while keeping the proven format, then send it to creators. Iterate on what works rather than inventing new formats, and keep testing so the program never settles on one format.

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Practitioner pattern · Dris Elamri (Founder of Instinct/Methods, which sells UGC programs and a creator app/self-serve UGC platform (hq.methods.app) that he recommends)

Under 20 creators did 100M views; a 2,000-creator program got only 500K a month

Don't scale creator count first. Build a base of a few creators who consistently get views (Cluely had under 20), then add more. The top 1% or 0.1% of creators produce ~90% of views; the rest is experimentation. Improving a creator's output is easier than 10x-ing or 100x-ing the roster. Counter-example: a company with 2,000 creators got only 500K views in a month.

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A store selling knockoff headphones · B2C · guest's high-school store

Broke even for 1.5 months, then 200K views overnight and up to $2K/day

Picked products from AliExpress and listed them before owning stock. Tried 10+ products (Apple Watch bands, fidget toys) before knockoff AirPods Max worked. His own filmed content was bad, so he took others' unboxing and review videos of the real product, cut them up, paid a Fiverr voiceover ($5), added captions and posted on TikTok. Kept posting despite barely breaking even for 1.5 months; after the first hit he doubled down on that format.

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A store selling knockoff headphones · B2C · guest's high-school store

Part of the run to 25K followers and 18M views; no separate numbers

Ran a series of videos replying to comments like 'Do you ship to this country?'. The offer: ships everywhere, $5 international and free domestic shipping, plus time-limited codes ('Enter this code, you get free shipping' for New Year's). Reason: people don't want to pay for shipping, only for the product.

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A Minecraft YouTube Shorts channel · B2C · guest's sold channel

200K subscribers and 180M views in 9 months after 6 flat months

Posted Minecraft YouTube Shorts for about 6 months with zero subscribers and views. When posts started blowing up, he worked out which format was working and doubled down on it. The principle he now applies to UGC: a format that goes viral once can go viral 100 or 1,000 more times, across creators, niches and companies.

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Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
InstinctarrUSD 1.2M
approximate
Annualized value of contracts signed with a few companies in the first week, before any product4:16
MethodsarrUSD 1.2M
approximate
Description/host intro attribute $1.2M ARR in seven days to Methods; the body attributes it to Instinct's first-week contracts1:15
Instincttime to milestone7 daysTime from leaving Cluely to $1.2M ARR in signed contracts3:12
Decartviews100M views
approximate
UGC program views in the first two weeks4:42
Decarttime to milestone2 weeks
approximate
Time to 100M UGC views4:42
DecartcpmUSD 0.3
approximate
Upper bound: 'sub-30-cent' all-in UGC CPM4:42
Decartrank30 rank
approximate
Top 30 in the App Store (category not stated)4:42
Decartviews400M views
estimate
Lifetime UGC program views, 400M+5:05
Cluelyviews100M views
approximate
UGC program views, 0 to 100M in the first few weeks6:12
CluelycpmUSD 1
approximate
Upper bound: 'sub-$1' CPM for the early UGC program6:12
Cluelyviews100M views
approximate
Description's version: 100M views in two weeks with fewer than 20 creators (the body gives 'first few weeks' for Cluely)0:00
Cluelycount20 creators
estimate
Upper bound: fewer than 20 creators consistently posting24:19
aggregateUGC vs other paid acquisition sources, averaged across companies Instinct/Methods has worked withconversion rate+4 x
approximate
UGC converts ~4x higher than other paid user acquisition sources8:09
aggregateUGC vs other paid acquisition sources, averaged across companies Instinct/Methods has worked withcac10-20x cheaper than other paid acquisition sources
approximate
8:09
Methodsgrowth rate100%
approximate
User count doubling every two weeks after the 'make money online' reframing9:05
Methodsrank1 rank
estimate
Search position for 'make money online' (platform not stated)9:05
Methodscount50K creators
approximate
Creators on the platform ('slightly higher' now)11:23
Methodscreator payUSD 500K
approximate
Total paid out to creators ('slightly higher' now)11:28
Methodscreator payUSD 40per creator /one-timePaid for a new creator's first post, during onboarding12:37
Methodscreator payUSD 30per videoEarly pitch to creators while solving the marketplace cold start12:37
company running a 2,000-creator UGC programcount2,000 creators
approximate
Creators in the company's UGC program24:43
company running a 2,000-creator UGC programviews500K views/month
approximate
Total views from its 2,000 creators in the last month24:43
benchmarkShare of a UGC program's views that come from the top 1% or 0.1% of creatorsshare90%
illustrative
24:43
Dris's TikTok dropshipping store selling knockoff AirPods MaxrevenueUSD 50K/month
approximate
Peak monthly revenue, from the guest's website as read by the host16:19
Dris's TikTok dropshipping store selling knockoff AirPods MaxrevenueUSD 2,000/day
approximate
After rebuilding the site overnight following the first Shopify ban, even without new content20:04
Dris's TikTok dropshipping store selling knockoff AirPods Maxviews200K viewsper video
approximate
First viral dropshipping TikTok, overnight18:24
Dris's TikTok dropshipping store selling knockoff AirPods Maxfollowers25K followers
approximate
First TikTok account before it was banned; 18M+ organic views. A second account reached 20K followers and several million views.18:49
Dris's TikTok dropshipping store selling knockoff AirPods Maxviews18M views
approximate
Organic views on the first TikTok account (18M+)18:49
Dris's TikTok dropshipping store selling knockoff AirPods MaxcostUSD 5per videoFiverr voiceover per repurposed video17:33
Dris's Minecraft YouTube Shorts channelfollowers200K subscribers
approximate
YouTube subscribers reached in 9 months; 180M views; a top-500 fastest-growing channel at the time22:30
Dris's Minecraft YouTube Shorts channelviews180M views
approximate
Views in the channel's first 9 months22:30
PlaudarrUSD 250M
estimate
45:03
PlaudpriceUSD 130/one-time
approximate
Hardware device; software is $20/month45:03
PlaudpriceUSD 20/month
approximate
Software subscription alongside the $130 device45:03