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The Superwall Podcast · 2026-03-18

Casper Opala - The Stupid Simple Content Strategy That's Making Apps Go Viral

Finance creator Casper Opala (~9M followers) co-owns Payout, a class-action settlement app, 50/50 with developer Connor; the host cites $217K in 5 months and Casper says ~$100K/month. He took the idea from a lowball sponsor offer and reused the hook of his best Gelato sponsored video. Covers two winning formats (how-to, then a 'Hey Temu' skit), ManyChat comment-to-DM (50% click, 6.7% download-to-paid), never saying the app name, pinned-comment CTAs, same-day creator pushes to chart, and short-form longevity.

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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

The first idea tried took off; app reached ~$100K/month
“I had a few ideas from companies that have reached out to me in the past to sponsor me, and they just like had low budgets or just didn't work out. And one of those ideas was a competitor of Payout now.”
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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

Remake got ~500K views, ~20K comments and $5K+ in subscriptions
“This video did the best out of all of them, and if you click on the second link I sent you, I reused that same exact hook for the Payout app in that same structure for the video to promote my app, and it crushed.”
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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

Took the app from zero to ~$100K/month, mostly from the creator's own videos
“I'd rather partner with someone, give up some equity, and have them handle that whole side, while I handle the whole distribution side.”
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Practitioner pattern · Casper Opala (Payout, Casper's third app)

2K likes on 2M views means paid boost; 50K likes on 2M means organic
“So you got to find the ones with high like-to-view ratios. Those are probably organic views and organic likes.”
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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

Kept working until the format dried up; only two formats ever made real money
“I just made more videos, swapped out the numbers, kept the structure the same, changed up the backgrounds a little bit just so people wouldn't get like creative fatigue or like ad fatigue.”
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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

First skit video made ~$10K+ in revenue; one of only two money-making formats
“So, this is the second format that we cracked, and to this day these are the only two formats that make significant money.”
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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

Lawsuit-story videos got views but few signups; payout-focused ones converted
“I tried a version where I tried talking about the actual class action, but that didn't translate to many signups. It translated to a lot of views, but not signups.”
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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

About 50% of people who comment click the link; 6.7% of downloads pay
“Usually, out of the people who request the link, there's about a 50% click-through rate. So out of those 13,000, about 6 1/2 thousand actually clicked on the link to Payout”
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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

Speaker says it keeps videos from reading as ads; no numbers
“Another interesting thing I learned is to never say the name of the app. I don't think in any of my videos I have said verbally the name of my app. I always say go to this app, so it sounds more like a friendly, helpful resource.”
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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

'Link in bio' didn't work on YouTube; shorter videos without it hold viewers better
“Instead, I put as the pinned comment, "There's many apps you can use to do this, but the one I use in the video is called Payout."”
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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

One video ran profitably for a few weeks
“Another cool thing is Connor also takes these videos and tests them as paid ads.”
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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

$9,700 revenue that day; reached about #70-80 in Finance
“We had like five creators post in one single day, and we did $9,700 in revenue that day, and we charted on the App Store.”
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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

Rates ~70% below list, but some posts still lost money, e.g. a $1,500 one
“I literally have done free videos for my friends' companies, so when I ask them to make a video, I'm like, "Hey, how much would you charge for a video?" They hit me back with a, "Bro, don't worry about it. It's free."”
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Payout · B2C · class-action settlement finder app

Side-hustle videos always get 300K+ views; saving-money ones swing 100K to 10M
“But I notice saving money is like, either gets 100,000 views or 10 million views. Side hustles always get like at least 300,000 views, if not more.”
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Practitioner pattern · Casper Opala (Payout, Casper's third app)

Winning brand creatives boosted to 35-40M views, earning back ~10x the creator fee
“Like, especially bigger creators don't usually go under $1,000 to $1,500 per video, and that only includes like a few months of usage.”
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Coupon.ai · B2C · Amazon discount code finder

One creator video drove 300K+ downloads; Casper's version got ~12M views
“Amazon will hate me for exposing this secret. Hey, Amazon, can I buy this air purifier for $65?”
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“for my third app, I gave up only 15% for the development and product side, because I know I've been able to scale an app from zero to like 100K, majority using just my own distribution.”
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Numbers mentioned

SubjectMetricValueQuote
Payoutrevenue
Revenue in the first 5 months, from Casper's tweet as read by the host
USD 217K“you co-founded an app that made $217,000 in 5 months”
Payoutrevenue
Scaled from zero to ~$100K/month, mostly with Casper's own distribution; bio reads 'co-founder of a 100K a month app'
USD 100K/month
approximate
“I know I've been able to scale an app from zero to like 100K, majority using just my own distribution.”
Payoutownership
Casper and Connor are 50/50 owners
50%“like Connor and I are 50/50 owners”
Payoutprice
Annual subscription; Casper estimates an active user makes back at least $200 in class actions
USD 40/year
approximate
“For example, for Payout, you spend $40 in a year, you're probably going to make back, I don't know, at least 200 in class actions”
personCasper Opala, creatorfollowers
Across platforms, at the time Payout started
9M followers
approximate
“I had about 9 million followers across platforms at the time.”
Payout competitor that offered Casper $500 for a sponsored videocreator pay
Sponsorship offer to Casper, declined as too low for his following; the idea became Payout
USD 500per video
approximate
“And they offered me like 500 bucks for a video, which for the amount of followers and the niche I'm in is really not a lot.”
benchmarkLike-to-view ratio of a boosted (paid) sponsored videoengagement rate
2,000 likes on 2M views signals the views were bought
0.1%
illustrative
“If a video has 2 million views and 2,000 likes, it was boosted.”
benchmarkLike-to-view ratio of an organic sponsored videoengagement rate
50,000 likes on 2M views signals organic reach
2.5%
illustrative
“But if it has 50,000 likes and 2 million views, that means it's probably organic.”
aggregateCasper's creator friends: inbound emails from developers offering to build them appsactivity volume
Offers like 'can we build you a Payout alternative?'
5 emailsper creator /day
approximate
“All of my influencer friends say they're getting like five emails a day about, "Hey, can we build you a Payout app alternative?”
personCasper Opala, target views per sponsored videoviews
Target per sponsored video; 100K is 'okay'
200K–500K viewsper video
goal
“We're trying to shoot for like 200 to 500,000 views per sponsored video.”
Gelatocount
Sponsored videos Gelato booked with Casper up to the winning one; they kept re-booking because it paid off
5 videos
approximate
“So they've been working with me probably for like five videos up until this one.”
Gelatoviews
Best Gelato sponsored video, organic (24,000 likes); its hook was reused for Payout
1M viewsper video
approximate
“Yeah, right about a million views, and this is all organic, no boosting.”
Payoutviews
Payout remake of the Gelato hook, posted about a week later; ~20,000 comments
500K viewsper video
approximate
“I'll show you the video I remade for Payout, literally like a week later, and it got half a million views and like 20,000 comments or something crazy.”
Payoutrevenue
Subscription revenue from the single 'Watch me make up to $900 in 30 seconds' video; 'or more'
USD 5,000per video
estimate
“This video alone generated, I can't tell you, probably close to $5,000 or more in subscription revenue.”
Payoutcount
Commenters who requested the app link via ManyChat on the how-to video (host estimate of half of ~25K comments)
13K link requests
estimate
“25,000 people commented, um, or maybe half of that like 13,000, and then those those people are getting DM'd the link”
Payoutconversion rate
Comment link request -> click on DM'd link (ManyChat); ~6,500 of ~13,000 clicked
50%
approximate
“Usually, out of the people who request the link, there's about a 50% click-through rate. So out of those 13,000, about 6 1/2 thousand actually clicked on the link to Payout”
Payoutconversion rate
Download -> paid
6.7%
approximate
“from download to paid, I think is 6.7%, around 7%.”
Payoutrevenue
Revenue from the first 'Hey Temu' skit video, including recurring subscriptions; 'if not more'
USD 10Kper video
estimate
“I think this video alone probably generated close to $10,000 in revenue for our app, if not more, with the subscriptions recurring.”
personCasper Opala, share of views on his sponsored/app videos from non-followersshare
Views from people who don't follow him (For You / Explore)
70%
approximate
“Like 70% of the views are not my followers.”
benchmarkRate charged by bigger creators for a UGC ad videocreator pay
Minimum for bigger creators; includes only a few months of ad usage rights
USD 1,000–1,500per video
approximate
“Like, especially bigger creators don't usually go under $1,000 to $1,500 per video, and that only includes like a few months of usage.”
benchmarkShare of paid creator ad videos that end up profitable for brandsshare20–30%
estimate
“Maybe 20, 30% of ads will be profitable.”
aggregateBrands Casper has made ad creatives for: views on a winning creative after boostingviews
Casper estimates the brand made back its creator fee 10x or more
35M–40M viewsper video
approximate
“If one ad creative hits, like I've had for brands I've worked with, they've boosted it to like 35, 40 million views”
benchmarkAlgorithm-savvy creator promoting a new app: sales from an early winnerrevenue
Within the first three or four videos, one should make $1,000+ in sales
USD 1,000per video
estimate
“Like within three, four videos, you'll probably have one that makes you 1,000-plus in sales”
personCasper Opala, average views per videoviews
Average summed across all platforms, recent posts including brand deals
1.4M viewsper video
approximate
“my views on average across all platforms, if you sum them up, are around 1.4 million views.”
Media Labsrevenue
Alex Sedlak's income from Media Labs
hundreds of thousands a month
estimate
“his main thing that makes a ton of money- he makes like hundreds of thousands a month from is Media Labs”
personCasper Opala, views on side-hustle videosviews
Floor for side-hustle videos ('at least'); saving-money videos swing between 100K and 10M
300K viewsper video
approximate
“Side hustles always get like at least 300,000 views, if not more.”
personCasper Opala, views on saving-money videosviews
Hit-or-miss: either ~100K or ~10M
100K–10M viewsper video
approximate
“But I notice saving money is like, either gets 100,000 views or 10 million views.”
Coupon.aiviews
Casper's sponsored 'Amazon will hate me' skit video (read on screen by host)
12M viewsper video
approximate
“But this is like a decent amount of volume. 12 [laughter] 12 million views.”
benchmarkAmazon affiliate commission per purchasecommission rate2–10%
approximate
“Which make like 2 to 10% off each purchase, so you have to have crazy volume to make money.”
Coupon.aidownloads
From a single video by another creator with 1M+ followers (what the company told Casper)
300K downloadsper video
approximate
“They told me before that they worked with um a creator, and one single video generated over 300,000 downloads.”
Coupon.airetention
Share of visitors who come back after checking it once; Casper's guess
less than 20%
estimate
“people will check this website out, or this app out, once, and then the chance of them returning is probably like less than 20%.”
Payoutdownloads
What old videos would still bring in per day if Casper stopped posting
a few hundred a day
estimate
“if I stop posting today all videos, I would still probably bring in a few hundred downloads every single day from my videos I posted months ago.”
personCasper Opala, one 17M-view video: views in first weekviews
First week; ~5M after 3 weeks, 7.5M after the first month, 17M lifetime
2.9M viewsper video“So here is that one video we just showed you guys that got 17 million views, but you can see that during the first week, the video only had 2.9 million views.”
personCasper Opala, one 17M-view video: views in first monthviews
Less than half of lifetime views came in the first month
7.5M viewsper video“In the first month, it had 7.5 million, which isn't even half of the lifetime of the video in the first month.”
personCasper Opala, one 17M-view video: views per hour 500+ days after postingviews
Still getting views 500+ days later; at least 10K/day during the plateau
30–50 viewsper hour
approximate
“I posted this video over 500 days ago, it's still getting 50 views an hour, 30 views an hour, which is insane.”
Payoutrevenue
Revenue on the day five creators posted at once
USD 9,700/day“We had like five creators post in one single day, and we did $9,700 in revenue that day, and we charted on the App Store.”
Payoutrank
App Store Finance category rank on the five-creator day; Casper unsure of exact position
70–80 rank
approximate
“we ranked number I don't remember, number 70 or number 80 in finance on the App Store”
personCasper Opala: discount on creator-friend rates vs what a brand paysshare
Discount off list rates (or free) for videos from creator friends
70%
approximate
“Like the rates I get are very discounted from like another company reaching out to them would have to pay, literally like 70% off.”
Payoutcreator pay
Discounted rate paid to a creator friend who normally charges $6,000+; the video lost money
USD 1,500per video
approximate
“off of like a $1,500 ad, I've lost money. And that's hard to believe if these people are like normally charging $6,000-plus per video.”
Casper's third appownership
Equity given to the development/product partner (vs 50% on Payout)
15%“for my third app, I gave up only 15% for the development and product side”
benchmarkCost to pay a developer to build a simple app outrightcostUSD 10K–15K
estimate
“while on the other side I could pay someone 10, 15,000 to build it”