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App Masters · 2026-09-19

Live App Teardowns: App Growth Optimization

Steve P. Young's live stream: audits of viewer apps (Blocker Plus, Glisten, Value Study, Conga Bongo Metronome) plus Q&A. Most content is live-audit advice (skipped). Extracted: App Masters' own tests (ASA max-conversion campaign run outside the US that surfaced the Netherlands, $5/$20/$30 utility pricing, gender-matched paywall testimonial, a hard paywall on an acquired app that drew 1-star reviews), client stories (moving 'Apple' left in the keyword field, removing a monthly anchor plan cut sales, Meta-only scaling) and a viewer's free-to-paid switch.

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16 tactics

A wallet app · App Masters client

Reached #2-3 for 'Apple Wallet'; one app, anecdotal

App already had 'wallet' in its title. In the iOS keyword field, the word 'Apple' was moved from somewhere on the right to the very first position, to target the combined term 'Apple Wallet'. Steve's rule: keywords further left in the keyword field tend to rank better.

Workedaso
App Masters · 2026-09-19

A subscription app · B2C · host's own app

Found the Netherlands: same keyword popularity as the US, difficulty 17 vs ~60

Created an Apple Ads max-conversion campaign targeting all countries except the US, with a few top-of-funnel keywords and a $2 target cost per install. Checked impression share by country and which countries produced paying users (India: impressions, no purchases; Netherlands, Canada, UK: impressions and sales). Cross-checked with Mo's Astro-based Claude skill listing keyword volume by country: Netherlands had the same popularity (~55) as the US but difficulty ~17 vs 60-something. Then stop the worldwide campaign and create a Netherlands-only campaign with more budget.

Workedapple-search-adsmarket-selection
App Masters · 2026-09-19

A $80K Apple Ads account · App Masters client

Agency says it works across clients ($80K for one); 'Basic Plus' setup sometimes beats it

Max conversion campaign with three ad groups: (1) broad match with search match left ON, only 5-10 of the highest-traffic keywords in your niche, very high max cost-per-tap; (2) exact match with the same 5-10 keywords and the same very high CPT; (3) Apple's auto-created group that mines your metadata (cannot be removed). Set the target cost per install in campaign settings (e.g. $2); Apple tries to hit that CPI regardless of the high max CPT.

Workedapple-search-ads
App Masters · 2026-09-19

A subscription app · B2C · App Masters client

Sales went down; the monthly price was the anchor that made $10/year look cheap

Paywall had $1.99/month and $10/year; 90% of buyers chose yearly, so the client removed the monthly option, leaving only the $10 yearly plan.

Failedpricingpaywall
App Masters · 2026-09-19

Calm · B2C · meditation app

Monthly plan was back within 2-3 weeks; observed from outside

Calm's paywall showed only the yearly plan for a period, then re-added the monthly plan two to three weeks later.

Failedpricingpaywall
App Masters · 2026-09-19

An app bought in 2022 · B2C · host's former app

Worked well for revenue, but brought many 1-star reviews from people who reinstalled

After buying a long-free app in 2022, the new owners added a hard paywall shown to first-time downloads; users who deleted and reinstalled also hit it.

Mixedpaywall
App Masters · 2026-09-19

An app founder Steve knows (name not recalled on air)

Founder said it worked really well; no numbers

Use the 'How did you hear about us?' onboarding answer (or the Superwall + Appstack integration) to route users: answers like Instagram, Facebook, TikTok or other paid channels get a hard paywall with no X; 'searched the App Store' gets a soft paywall with a close X. Every source still sees a paywall. Aim: avoid 1-star reviews from organic users.

Workedpaywallanalytics-attribution
App Masters · 2026-09-19

App Masters · B2B · app marketing agency

Across several of the host's utility apps, set plans to $5/week, $20/year and $30 lifetime, copying a prior guest's (Chris) finding that $29.99 is the best lifetime price. Results promised later.

Unknownpricing
App Masters · 2026-09-19

Sign Panda · B2C · signature maker app

Users emailed feature requests and said the icon made them download; no numbers

Ran an Indie App Santa campaign for Sign Panda (signature maker) offering a lifetime free plan.

Unknownpr-launchfeature-development
App Masters · 2026-09-19

App Masters · B2B · app marketing agency

A/B testing icons for one of the host's newer apps, prompted by Sign Panda users citing the icon and a prior guest (Chris) stressing icons.

Unknownasoexperimentation
App Masters · 2026-09-19

App Masters · B2B · app marketing agency

In use; an A/B test vs ratings was mentioned but the result wasn't stated

Onboarding asks male or female. The paywall shows a single, static testimonial (not a scrolling carousel) from someone of the same gender. The team also A/B tested testimonials vs ratings (rating count/average) in a case study.

Unknownpaywallonboarding
App Masters · 2026-09-19

An app at $4M+ ARR · App Masters client

$4M+ ARR for one client and ~$1M MRR for another, Meta only

Both apps grew using only Meta ads; the ~$1M MRR developer only later added Apple Ads (with App Masters). No creative or targeting detail given.

Workedpaid-social
App Masters · 2026-09-19

Value Study · B2C · art reference app

90-99% of existing users happy to pay; new users complained

App was free for years; the developer slowly raised charges, giving existing users three months' heads-up before the change.

Workedpricingcustomer-support
App Masters · 2026-09-19

Value Study · B2C · art reference app

Developer calls it a great success; one creator had a big impact; no numbers

Used Collabstr to hire UGC creators; worked with micro-influencers, one of whom (based in Colombia) had a large impact.

Workedugc-creatorsinfluencer
App Masters · 2026-09-19

A friend of the host, app developer since ~2013

Made more money at each step, per the friend; no numbers

Starting around 2013, a friend's apps went paid upfront -> free with in-app purchases -> free with subscriptions.

Workedpricing
App Masters · 2026-09-19

An app that shared its results privately with the host; Canva cited as a public example

Heard it works really well; app unnamed, no numbers

An unnamed app shows a different paywall and prices based on onboarding answers (similar to Canva and AI tools asking 'personal or professional?' and pricing accordingly).

Workedpaywallonboarding
App Masters · 2026-09-19

Numbers mentioned

WhoMetricValueContextWhen
Blocker Plusrank2 rankGoogle Play US search rank for its main keyword0:00
Blocker PluspriceUSD 25.99Plan price on the paywall (3-day free trial)0:00
App Masters Apple Ads client ($80K spend)ad spendUSD 80K
approximate
Apple Ads spend managed for a client, reported as ROAS-positive17:33
App Masters client with 'wallet' in its titlerank2–3 rank
approximate
App Store rank for 'Apple Wallet' after moving 'Apple' to the start of the keyword field17:33
App Masters client earning most revenue on iPadrevenueUSD 220K–250K
approximate
Client revenue (period not stated); said to be 200K+ but under 300K17:33
App Masters client earning most revenue on iPadrevenueUSD 200K
approximate
Portion of the client's revenue from iPad (~200K of ~250K)17:33
Value Studycount260 searchesSearch volume for 'value study' per Keywords Everywhere (Google)17:33
Value Studycount3,000 ratings
approximate
App Store ratings count (3,000+)17:33
Value Studyrating4.8 starsAverage App Store rating17:33
Value Studyshare90–99%
estimate
Share of existing (previously free) users happy to pay after the switch to paid1:09:43
App MasterspriceUSD 5/weekWeekly plan in the host's utility-app pricing test17:33
App MasterspriceUSD 20/yearAnnual plan in the host's utility-app pricing test17:33
App MasterspriceUSD 30/one-timeLifetime plan in the host's utility-app pricing test17:33
App MasterspriceUSD 40/yearHost's usual annual price point across his apps17:33
personJoseph (viewer), across his own appspriceUSD 40/yearAnnual price Joseph finds works well17:33
benchmarkOptimal lifetime price found by Chris (prior App Masters guest) testing lifetime plans on his appspriceUSD 29.99/one-time
approximate
17:33
App Masters client at $4M+ ARR from Meta alonearrUSD 4M
approximate
4M+ ARR with Meta as the only acquisition channel46:52
Indie developer's app at ~$1M MRR from Meta alonemrrUSD 1M
approximate
Scaled with Meta only46:52
aggregateApps the host has seen scale on one or two of five channels (ASO, Apple Ads, Google, Meta, TikTok)arrUSD 5M
approximate
Upper example: apps reaching $5M ARR with one or two channels46:52
Steve's app in a category with Netherlands search volumecpiUSD 2
goal
Target cost per install set in the worldwide (ex-US) Apple Ads max-conversion campaign1:14:28
marketSearch popularity (Astro) of the host's main keyword in the Netherlands, same as in the USkeyword popularity55 score
approximate
46:52
marketKeyword difficulty (Astro) of the host's main keyword in the Netherlandskeyword difficulty17 score
approximate
46:52
App Masters client selling a $10/year planshare90%
approximate
Share of buyers choosing the $10/year plan over $1.99/month (before the monthly plan was removed)1:14:28
Open Play Centralusers3,000 usersRegistered pickleball players (location spread unknown)17:33