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App Masters · 2026-09-19

Live App Teardowns: App Growth Optimization

Steve P. Young's live stream: audits of viewer apps (Blocker Plus, Glisten, Value Study, Conga Bongo Metronome) plus Q&A. Most content is live-audit advice (skipped). Extracted: App Masters' own tests (ASA max-conversion campaign run outside the US that surfaced the Netherlands, $5/$20/$30 utility pricing, gender-matched paywall testimonial, a hard paywall on an acquired app that drew 1-star reviews), client stories (moving 'Apple' left in the keyword field, removing a monthly anchor plan cut sales, Meta-only scaling) and a viewer's free-to-paid switch.

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16 tactics

A wallet app · App Masters client

Reached #2-3 for 'Apple Wallet'; one app, anecdotal
“put that keyword to the left of your keyword field. We found that keywords to the left tend to have better rankings”
Workedaso
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A subscription app · B2C · host's own app

Found the Netherlands: same keyword popularity as the US, difficulty 17 vs ~60
“I ran a max conversion campaign outside of the US. So I said, "All countries except the US," for my app, and I did a max conversion”
Workedapple-search-adsmarket-selection
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A $80K Apple Ads account · App Masters client

Agency says it works across clients ($80K for one); 'Basic Plus' setup sometimes beats it
“Put those keywords anywhere from 5 to 10. And then, put a really high cost-per-tap, and whatever cost-per-install you're aiming for”
Workedapple-search-ads
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A subscription app · B2C · App Masters client

Sales went down; the monthly price was the anchor that made $10/year look cheap
“So they removed the monthly from their paywall. Guess what happened to the sales, H? It went down.”
Failedpricingpaywall
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Calm · B2C · meditation app

Monthly plan was back within 2-3 weeks; observed from outside
“At the time, Calm did just have the yearly. Guess what, a month, two or three weeks later, they have their monthly back, because it works.”
Failedpricingpaywall
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An app bought in 2022 · B2C · host's former app

Worked well for revenue, but brought many 1-star reviews from people who reinstalled
“Hard paywall did work for an app that we purchased back in 2022.”
Mixedpaywall
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An app founder Steve knows (name not recalled on air)

Founder said it worked really well; no numbers
“if they put Instagram or Facebook or TikTok or any paid channel, you remove the X and you do a hard paywall”
Workedpaywallanalytics-attribution
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App Masters · B2B · app marketing agency

“Chris's strategy about the $29.99 being the optimal lifetime price for his apps, I'm trying that out with a lot of our utility apps”
Unknownpricing
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Sign Panda · B2C · signature maker app

Users emailed feature requests and said the icon made them download; no numbers
“After I ran the Indie App Santa campaign, some of the people were like, we did a lifetime free plan”
Unknownpr-launchfeature-development
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App Masters · B2B · app marketing agency

“So we're A/B testing icons for our one of our newer apps, and I'll just kinda show you guys which one won.”
Unknownasoexperimentation
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App Masters · B2B · app marketing agency

In use; an A/B test vs ratings was mentioned but the result wasn't stated
“one of our apps, we do do this. We ask if you're male or female.”
Unknownpaywallonboarding
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An app at $4M+ ARR · App Masters client

$4M+ ARR for one client and ~$1M MRR for another, Meta only
“So one of our clients doing 4+ million ARR, just Meta.”
Workedpaid-social
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Value Study · B2C · art reference app

90-99% of existing users happy to pay; new users complained
“It was free for years, so I've slowly upped the charging”
Workedpricingcustomer-support
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Value Study · B2C · art reference app

Developer calls it a great success; one creator had a big impact; no numbers
“For UGC, I had great success with Collabstr, and for micro-influencers, there's a guy in Columbia who made a massive impact”
Workedugc-creatorsinfluencer
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A friend of the host, app developer since ~2013

Made more money at each step, per the friend; no numbers
“a friend of mine had started with paid apps, made some money, then went to free with in-app purchases, made more money, then went to free with subscriptions, made even more money”
Workedpricing
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An app that shared its results privately with the host; Canva cited as a public example

Heard it works really well; app unnamed, no numbers
“they kinda tailor the pricing and the paywall to what you kinda said during your onboarding”
Workedpaywallonboarding
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Numbers mentioned

SubjectMetricValueQuote
Blocker Plusrank
Google Play US search rank for its main keyword
2 rank“looks like you're already number two in the US for that particular term”
Blocker Plusprice
Plan price on the paywall (3-day free trial)
USD 25.99“Maybe $29.99 would convert better than $25.99.”
App Masters Apple Ads client ($80K spend)ad spend
Apple Ads spend managed for a client, reported as ROAS-positive
USD 80K
approximate
“we're spending $80,000 for a client and I can show you the ROAS positivity there”
App Masters client with 'wallet' in its titlerank
App Store rank for 'Apple Wallet' after moving 'Apple' to the start of the keyword field
2–3 rank
approximate
“we just got to number two or three for that particular term”
App Masters client earning most revenue on iPadrevenue
Client revenue (period not stated); said to be 200K+ but under 300K
USD 220K–250K
approximate
“Look, I think it's like 220, 250.”
App Masters client earning most revenue on iPadrevenue
Portion of the client's revenue from iPad (~200K of ~250K)
USD 200K
approximate
“about 200 of it, 200 of the 250, just keep maths simple, is on iPad”
Value Studycount
Search volume for 'value study' per Keywords Everywhere (Google)
260 searches“It's only 260, so it's not a huge market, Shane.”
Value Studycount
App Store ratings count (3,000+)
3,000 ratings
approximate
“Over 3,000 ratings with 4.8 average rating, that's amazing”
Value Studyrating
Average App Store rating
4.8 stars“Over 3,000 ratings with 4.8 average rating”
Value Studyshare
Share of existing (previously free) users happy to pay after the switch to paid
90–99%
estimate
“I would say 90% 99% of the existing users were more than happy to pay”
App Mastersprice
Weekly plan in the host's utility-app pricing test
USD 5/week“So we have $5 a week, $20 a year, and $30 lifetime.”
App Mastersprice
Annual plan in the host's utility-app pricing test
USD 20/year“So we have $5 a week, $20 a year, and $30 lifetime.”
App Mastersprice
Lifetime plan in the host's utility-app pricing test
USD 30/one-time“So we have $5 a week, $20 a year, and $30 lifetime.”
App Mastersprice
Host's usual annual price point across his apps
USD 40/year“Like $40 a year is usually my the price point that we have right now.”
personJoseph (viewer), across his own appsprice
Annual price Joseph finds works well
USD 40/year“We're finding $40 a year seems to be a good”
benchmarkOptimal lifetime price found by Chris (prior App Masters guest) testing lifetime plans on his appspriceUSD 29.99/one-time
approximate
“Chris's strategy about the $29.99 being the optimal lifetime price for his apps”
App Masters client at $4M+ ARR from Meta alonearr
4M+ ARR with Meta as the only acquisition channel
USD 4M
approximate
“So one of our clients doing 4+ million ARR, just Meta.”
Indie developer's app at ~$1M MRR from Meta alonemrr
Scaled with Meta only
USD 1M
approximate
“he's been able to scale to about a million MRR with just Meta”
aggregateApps the host has seen scale on one or two of five channels (ASO, Apple Ads, Google, Meta, TikTok)arr
Upper example: apps reaching $5M ARR with one or two channels
USD 5M
approximate
“I've seen apps and I have the proof where they're able to hit 5 million ARR with just one, literally one or two of these channels”
Steve's app in a category with Netherlands search volumecpi
Target cost per install set in the worldwide (ex-US) Apple Ads max-conversion campaign
USD 2
goal
“I only gave, "Hey, I want $2 per install." I looked at the impression share”
marketSearch popularity (Astro) of the host's main keyword in the Netherlands, same as in the USkeyword popularity55 score
approximate
“that same keyword has the same search score, it's like 55, in the US as it does in the Netherlands”
marketKeyword difficulty (Astro) of the host's main keyword in the Netherlandskeyword difficulty17 score
approximate
“in the Netherlands, the difficulty is like a 17, according to Astro, but it's like 60-something in the US”
App Masters client selling a $10/year planshare
Share of buyers choosing the $10/year plan over $1.99/month (before the monthly plan was removed)
90%
approximate
“They had $1.99 per month, $10 year, and they're like, "Hey, 90% of everybody buys the year."”
Open Play Centralusers
Registered pickleball players (location spread unknown)
3,000 users“he has 3,000 registered pickleballers”