Pingo AI · B2C · AI language speaking app
Post language-tip slideshows that end with a pitch for the app
Some hit 1M views, but accounts burned out fast; weak-CTA slides converted far worse
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Morrie Schonfeld - How I built a $500k/mo ai app (so you can just copy me)
Morrie Schonfeld… of like the funny goes viral, we first connected it more with culture, so like with Chinese videos, it was kind of like the whole TikTok ban and RedNote and Chinese government stuff. And like Korean, we'd do culture things. We tried different audios, right, like Squid Games audio on Korean stuff, like, you know, random French music on French videos, and like the audio we don't really care about as much anymore, but at the time it like worked.
Morrie SchonfeldAnd from there, we're like, all right, this cultural, this humor, this blend, like learning and culture and funny works really, really well. And then we tried different things. We tried slideshows. We tried not using Pingo. And the slideshow stuff with a really good CTA could work. It could go viral. We had some that got a million views, but I've found at least for for Pingo, and I don't know if this is necessarily the case for all other apps, but with Pingo, they burned out pretty quick.
Morrie Schonfeld… and then they'd kind of crash. And so they worked well for a bit, and they converted well, but like we haven't seen them work as well since. And it really had to be a strong call to action. We had a lot of slideshow videos that I really didn't like where people would be like, "Top five phrases to get fluent in Japanese," and it'd be five slides of phrases, and the last slide would be, "Something, something, something. I learned it on Pingo."
Morrie SchonfeldAnd like the conversion difference between that and the strong call-to-action slides, but let alone the conversion difference between those slideshows and our videos using Pingo, was like night and day.
Joseph ChoiSo there's a few variables you mentioned there. There's uh the virality of the video. There's how high-converting think it will be, which is basically like how much do you show the actual app in the video. And then the there's a third variable that you didn't mention, but is sort of like baked in, which is uh cost. Like when you're mentioning like slideshows, slideshows with AI nowadays are like completely automatable, right? Like you can just
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- Only build an app whose main feature looks interesting on videoTalking to the AI became the core of every video; app reached ~$500K/month
- Film yourselves talking to the app on TikTok, one account per languageReached $20K MRR in about 3 months with almost no outside creators
- Show people using the app in every video, not just talk about the topicLanguage-topic videos without the app flopped; app-demo videos went viral and converted
- Tie videos to beginner lessons and culture moments, like K-dramas or the TikTok banA 'basic Korean quiz' got 77K views; a TikTok-ban/RedNote video got 1M
- Film the AI tutor roasting a learner until they cry on cameraTop video hit 52M views; the format has worked in every language since September
- Let users write their own scenes for the AI so creators can script funny videosCreators found the viral 'mean Pingo' format with it; users now ask for a mean mode
- Have assistants DM small creators learning the language, then move them to emailBuilt a roster of ~100 creators across ~20 languages
- Pay creators a base per video plus bonuses at 50K to 1M viewsKeeps creators paid for their time and chasing viral hits; no numbers
- Treat creators like investments: drop the weakest, keep the stars, train the middleTop 20-30% of ~100 creators drive most views; cut 30-50 who drove none
- Coach creators on lighting, camera angle, sound and doing something on cameraJust started; small tweaks tend to help good creators, no numbers yet
- Scale winning formats through a pay-per-view creator network; test ideas with core creatorsWinning variations get scaled quickly; spend is easy to flex; no numbers
- Make viral videos for learners of RussianAbout half of new users came from Russia and couldn't pay; Russian content killed
- Show a timeline on the paywall: free today, reminder before billing, cancel anytimeBeat social-proof and yearly-vs-monthly paywall versions; no numbers given
- Offer the free trial only on the yearly plan and hide the monthly one
- Test a 3-day against a 7-day free trial, US and abroad separatelyNear-even in the US; 7-day converted ~2% better internationally (early data)
- When someone backs out of a 3-day trial, offer 7 free days at a lower priceConverts better than showing the 7-day trial first; exact lift not given
- Bill US users through web checkout to keep more of each sale
- Join Y Combinator, then raise quickly on strong revenue and CAC/LTV~100 investor meetings booked; round closed in about 3 days
Tags: tiktok, slideshows, cta, account-burnout