Ladder · B2C · strength training app
Let people use the app free for 7 days before showing any paywall
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What they did
Ladder is completely free for the first 7 days and shows no paywall at all, so it relies on getting users to return many times; George calls it an unusual strategy.
In their words
The Superwall Podcast · George Lampropoulos - Meet the ex-wrestler making $41k/mo with AI apps“So, theirs is completely free for 7 days. Like they don't even show you a paywall for the first 7 days.”
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