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The Superwall Podcast · 2025-10-03

Dan Vykhopen - This app makes $2m/year using this ridiculously easy strategy

Dan Vykhopen, founder of Massive (AI that fills out job applications, ~$200K/month, tiny team), on validating with one viral LinkedIn post, a 40-50K waitlist that barely converted, grinding to ~$20K MRR via Hacker News and manual outreach, and why audience-targeted hooks ('Stop using LinkedIn' vs 'Indeed') matter more than views: an 11M-view video made only ~$20K MRR. Also: 80/20 copying of proven formats, UGC not scaling for him, doubling revenue via pricing, PrepAI's grey-hat fake job-offer videos, and audience/market lessons from Headway, Minutes AI and Masterschool.

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Massive · B2C · AI job application app

8M impressions and 5,000 comments from ~500 connections
“So I made a LinkedIn post that was just like, "Hey, like if I built this tool, you know, would anyone want it?"”
Workedvalidationfounder-brand
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Massive · B2C · AI job application app

40-50K sign-ups, but only ~0.5% signed up at launch and almost none paid
“I kept making posts on LinkedIn about here are the top 200 companies hiring now. We would get emails that way”
Failedpr-launchfounder-brand
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Massive · B2C · AI job application app

First 100-500 paying users; ~$20K MRR after 8 months of grinding
“At that time, it was Hacker News. I did a big push on Hacker News, I scraped emails manually, scraped posts, I reached out with like heartfelt messages like, "Hey, I think you should use this."”
Workedcommunityoutbound-sales
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Massive · B2C · AI job application app

Founder estimates 2-3x more views and better creator reply rates
“When I say Tinder for jobs, people get it like this, but if I say like, "Oh, it's your job search on autopilot" or "Use AI to fill out job applications" or like all this stuff, it like- It's not as clear.”
Workedpositioning-nichecreator-ops
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Massive · B2C · AI job application app

Now 3-5 viral videos a day and can't tell which ones convert
“So when you do get one, you can clearly see in Stripe or in RevenueCat, whatever, that like is this converting.”
Mixedanalytics-attributionorganic-short-video
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Massive · B2C · AI job application app

College students didn't convert at all; skits miss the problem
“Skits, for example, for us don't work, because they don't target the problem well enough.”
Failedorganic-short-videougc-creators
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Massive · B2C · AI job application app

LinkedIn hook: ~1M views, high conversion; Indeed: 11M views, only ~$20K MRR
“"Stop using LinkedIn to apply to jobs," and we'll get a million views on that. If it's done well, it'll convert very highly. If we say, "Stop using Indeed to apply to jobs," there's almost no conversion, which is psychotic.”
Workedorganic-short-videopositioning-niche
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“I think on organic, if you're really doing this at scale, you have to be doing probably 80%- I don't want to call it copying, but like looking at what's already gone viral before and then replicating that in your own way. And then 20% can be saved net new stuff.”
Unknownorganic-short-videougc-creators
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Massive · B2C · AI job application app

An 11M-view video in 4 days, but only ~$20K MRR; program died
“by the time we got to this video, we'd been running a UGC program for like a year. I really just like wanted to restart it and put a lot of new energy into it, and this happened within the first like 4 days of like restarting that UGC program. But then that program dies”
Mixedugc-creatorscreator-ops
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Massive · B2C · AI job application app

No more conversions than at 500K views a week
“So when we were doing like 500k views, we were actually probably converting as much. We just started to scale up on the influencer and UGC side a lot and test a lot of new stuff and it didn't work.”
No effectinfluencerugc-creators
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Massive · B2C · AI job application app

Got views but few conversions; followers weren't job hunting
“Working with influencers on a monthly retainer basis. I think we got killed by lack of conversions. Like we could do views”
Failedinfluencer
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Massive · B2C · AI job application app

Revenue doubled; no details on what changed
“We doubled our revenue from pricing changes.”
Workedpricingpaywall
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Massive · B2C · AI job application app

Revenue up 50% from ads; method not described
“I think that you should pay to get that data, so I think maybe paid ads is a better approach for that than at least UGC, because you get real data of what's working and what's not”
Workedpaid-social
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“He's like, "We just ripped from somewhere." And I was like, "I just ripped mine from somewhere, too."”
Unknownonboarding
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YOGABODY · B2C · online stretching course

Converted Dan after 6 ads despite a painful checkout; ads live ~2 years
“They were like, "If you are running more than 10 mi and you have tight hips, here's why."”
Workedpaid-social
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Sorce · B2C · job search app

Goes viral consistently with one or two formats; widely copied
“I call it Career Dave style. This guy, Career Dave, is from one of our competitors. Company's called Sorce. And he came up with this really great style that consistently goes viral for him.”
Workedorganic-short-videougc-creators
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Dupe · B2C · home decor dupe finder

Same format went from 382 views to 1.7M; founder says it converts very well
“In Alyssa's case, it took her weeks to actually figure out this format. Like all these videos were doing hundreds of views, hundreds of views”
Workedugc-creatorsorganic-short-video
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PrepAI · B2C · AI job search app

Dan calls it illegal; commenters caught on and videos are being taken down
“The video has nothing to do with like converting people. It's a Trojan horse to like get comments and engagement and then convert people in the comments.”
Failedorganic-short-videougc-creators
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Headway · B2C · book summary app

$200-300M a year, 30% margins, doubling yearly
“But they kind of just kept pushing and figured out paid ads arbitrage to scale to $2-300 million a year”
Workedpaid-social
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Neuro Gum · B2C · energy and focus gum

Dan guesses nine-figure revenue
“They have almost in-house affiliates, UGC creators, and they have another like 100,000 on TikTok shop, and they were doing maybe nine-plus figures.”
Workedaffiliateugc-creators
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Masterschool · B2C · tech bootcamp

Revenue tripled in under a quarter from a $50M/year base
“They had this thing called Maestro. This is actually not the product. This is like a a funnel to get you to apply to their bootcamp, but I think they figured out a way to give a lot of people scholarships”
Workedweb-to-apppositioning-niche
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Minutes AI · B2C · AI note-taking app

~3x TurboLearn's revenue on 1/5-1/6 of the downloads
“They're just targeting an older audience and they're making three times more money with like 1/5 or 1/6 the amount of downloads.”
Workedpositioning-niche
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Numbers mentioned

SubjectMetricValueQuote
MassiverevenueUSD 200K/month
approximate
“So right now, we're at about 200k a month.”
Massivearr
Host's intro and question; consistent with Dan's ~$200K/month
USD 2M
approximate
“there's a consumer app that's quietly pulling in $2 million in ARR that you've probably never heard of”
Massivecount
Job applications submitted by the AI; earlier also described as 'tens of millions'
10M applications
approximate
“I don't know the exact number, but it's definitely more than 10 million applications at this point.”
Massivefunding raised
Raised from VCs for the pre-pivot product
USD 3M“We'd raised $3 million from a bunch of VCs”
Massiveteam size
Founder plus one full-time engineer, plus a handful of VAs and ops people
2 people“It's me, it's a full-time engineer, and I have a handful of like VAs and like ops people.”
personDan Vykhopen's LinkedIn network before the viral postfollowers500 connections
approximate
“At that point, I had like maybe 500 connections.”
Massiveviews
Validation LinkedIn post; also ~5,000 comments
8M impressionsper post
approximate
“We got, I think, like 8 million impressions, 5,000 comments, and people were really, really excited.”
Massivecount
Comments on the validation LinkedIn post
5,000 commentsper post
approximate
“We got, I think, like 8 million impressions, 5,000 comments”
Massivecount
Waitlist sign-ups in the first 2 months before launch
40K–50K waitlist sign-ups
approximate
“We got, I think, 40 or 50k waitlist sign-ups in the first 2 months of just playing around with this core idea”
Massiveconversion rate
Waitlist -> signed up at launch; essentially no one paid
0.5%
approximate
“only about like half a percentage of the waitlist converted to even signing up”
Massivepaying users
First paying users from Hacker News and manual outreach after launch
100–500 users
approximate
“And that's how we got our first like 100, maybe 500 users to go pay and give us feedback.”
MassivemrrUSD 20K
approximate
“from April to December, were just like manual grinding to I think it was maybe 20k MRR”
Massiveviews
More views from the 'Tinder for jobs' framing vs longer descriptions; also raises creator reply rates
+2–3 x
estimate
“It increases reply rates from creators, it helps us do like two to three times more views, probably.”
Massiveviews
Organic influencer + UGC views now
3M–4M views/week
approximate
“I think we do maybe 3 to 4 million views per week roughly”
Massiveviews
Earlier view level, which converted about as much as today's 3-4M
500K views/week
approximate
“So when we were doing like 500k views, we were actually probably converting as much.”
Massivecount3–5 viral videos/day
approximate
“cuz right now we're getting three, four, five viral videos a day kind of thing”
Massiveviews
'Stop using LinkedIn to apply to jobs' hook; converts very highly when done well
1M viewsper video
approximate
“"Stop using LinkedIn to apply to jobs," and we'll get a million views on that. If it's done well, it'll convert very highly.”
Massiveviews
'Who's still using Indeed?' video, within the first 4 days of restarting the UGC program
11M viewsper video
approximate
“This did roughly 11 million views, but almost no conversions.”
Massivemrr
MRR attributed to the 11M-view Indeed video; conversions only came between ~3M and 3.5M views
+USD 20K
approximate
“Like 20k MRR, it's not a lot for 11 million.”
Massivetime to milestone
From restarting the UGC program (after running one for ~a year) to the 11M-view video
4 days
approximate
“this happened within the first like 4 days of like restarting that UGC program”
Massivegrowth rate
Revenue doubled from pricing changes (no detail given)
+100%
approximate
“We doubled our revenue from pricing changes.”
Massivegrowth rate
Revenue increase from 'doing ads in a specific way' (no detail given)
+50%
approximate
“We increased revenue 50% by doing ads in a specific way”
YOGABODYprice
Stretching course Dan bought from ads
USD 100
approximate
“It was like a stretching course. It's like 100 bucks.”
YOGABODYad spendmillions of dollars a month
estimate
“they're probably spending millions of dollars a month”
YOGABODYcount
Ads Dan saw before converting
6 ads
approximate
“So I think I saw six ads before I actually converted.”
Dupeviews
Same discovery format, early inauthentic-feeling attempt (creator Alyssa Home Finds)
382 viewsper video“The same format, 382 views versus 1.7 million.”
Dupeviews
Same format after weeks of iteration
1.7M viewsper video“The same format, 382 views versus 1.7 million.”
HeadwayrevenueUSD 200M–300M/year
approximate
“$2-300 million a year, 30% margins, and two times year-over-year growth on straight paid”
Headwaymargin30%
approximate
“$2-300 million a year, 30% margins”
Headwaygrowth rate2 x/year
approximate
“two times year-over-year growth on straight paid, on performance marketing, on paid ads”
Neuro Gumcount
TikTok Shop affiliates, on top of in-house affiliates/UGC creators
100K affiliates
approximate
“They have almost in-house affiliates, UGC creators, and they have another like 100,000 on TikTok shop”
Neuro Gumrevenuenine-plus figures
estimate
“they were doing maybe nine-plus figures”
TurboLearndownloads
Sensor Tower, read loosely off screen; may combine two apps; revenue ~100K
170K downloads
approximate
“It says like 100k over here, combining these two with like 170k downloads, and they're targeting a younger audience.”
Answers AImrrUSD 10K–15K
approximate
“So they're like 10, 15k MRR.”
Minutes AIrevenue
With ~30K downloads; ~3x TurboLearn's revenue on 1/5-1/6 the downloads
USD 300K/month
approximate
“Minutes AI, and they're doing 30k downloads and 300k a month”
Minutes AIdownloads30K downloads
approximate
“Minutes AI, and they're doing 30k downloads and 300k a month”
Masterschoolrevenue
Before the Maestro AI launch
USD 50M/year
approximate
“So they were doing decent, right? Like $50 million a year.”
Masterschoolgrowth rate
Revenue tripled in less than a quarter after the Maestro AI launch
+3 x/quarter
approximate
“three times revenue in less than a quarter”